A very real difference

In 2000 when the Supreme Court decided to appoint Bush president (by a 5 to 4 decision), there was consternation on the left. Questions about the shenanigans and the way Katherine Harris violated the rules before and after the election and how the whole system was short circuited to prevent a complete vote count.

No one questioned Bush’s birth, or religion, or patriotism, attacked his family, called for his impeachment in 2000, or attacked his children; especially democratic congress critters .. or most mainstream progressive commentators.

When President Bush was in office, there were calls for his impeachment. It was discussed, debated, reported by the MSM, and even polled about. Books were written about it like, The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office, Warrior-king: the case for impeaching George W. Bush and Impeach the president: the case against Bush and Cheney

Some calls came as early as 2003 when he was planning his invasion of Iraq, for an illegal war.

2003 BTW, not Nov 2000 (see below).

People protested the War, that is to be expected. No national supposed news organization was the central moving agent for those protests (unlike the astroturf teabagging movement).

Nor did progressive protesters refuse to permit citizens from expressing their concerns to their elected representatives like the tea baggers did in Aug 2009.

Other calls came during the revelations of illegal wiretapping after 2005.

No one suggested a coup, because Bush was ignoring the US Constitution.(like a newsmax about president Obama column has done recently)

Some state actions actually did result;

On March 21, 2006 the New Mexico Democratic Party, at a convention in Albuquerque, adopted a plank to their platform saying “the Democratic Party of New Mexico supports the impeachment of George Bush and his lawful removal from office.”

On March 24, 2007, the Vermont Democratic State Committee voted to support JRH 15, a state legislative resolution supporting impeachment, calling for its passage as “appropriate action.”

On April 28, 2007, the California Democratic Convention passed a resolution for impeachment.

At the federal level action was also taken

On June 16, 2005 Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) assembled an unofficial meeting to discuss the Downing Street memo and to consider grounds for impeachment. Conyers filed a resolution on December 18, 2005 to create an investigative committee to consider impeachment. His resolution gained 38 co-sponsors before it expired at the end of the 109th Congress.

On June 9, 2008, Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), introduced a resolution, H.Res. 1258, to impeach president George W. Bush, which included 35 counts in the articles of impeachment. At the end of the evening on June 10, Kucinich offered a motion to refer HRes 1258 to the House Judiciary Committee. On June 11, the House voted 251-166 to send the resolution to the Committee.

Each of these actions were totally with in the law,

That is how the progressive part of our political structure tried to deal with what they foresaw as illegal activity by the President. They wanted Bush impeached, legally, by the rules of the US Constitution.

In contrast here is what we see from the reich wing in this country after Obama wins an election with out the hijinks in Florida circa 2000.

They call for his impeachment even before he is sworn in.

Impeach Obama’ groups pop up on Facebook

Headlines you can see daily now about the hate for Obama and calls for harm to him;

Even before he was elected Four people have been arrested after plotting to assassinate Barack Obama in Denver.

Before the election investigators in Tennessee thwarted a plot to assassinate Senator Barack Obama and kill 102 other black Americans.

In 2007 Ted Nugent Threatens to Kill Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton During Vicious Onstage Rant

Then Hannity Defends Ted Nugent’s Death Threats on Obama.

In 2009 Facebook Has “Kill Obama Poll”, which the secret service feels the need to investigate.

A man is being held in Florida by federal authorities on charges of threatening to assassinate Barack Obama.

US President Barack Obama is the target of more than 30 potential death threats a day and is being protected by an increasingly over-stretched and under-resourced Secret Service, according to a new book.

A CNN source with very close to the U.S. Secret Service confirmed to me today that threats on the life of the president of the United States have now risen by as much as 400 percent since his inauguration.

A new Newsmax column advocates a military coup to unseat Obama or usher in a period of “shared responsibility” between military government and a ceremonial Obama presidency. “A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.”

A posting on Fox Nation’s is a death threat to Obama reported to Secret Service

Phoenix Pastor Draws Protests After Telling Church He Prays for Obama’s Death

Funny the hate and viciousness of the reich wing seems to stand out quite well here. They have seemingly come out of the woodwork, screeching, fomenting, advocating for sedition, coups, impeachment and even murder, just because somebody named Barack Hussein Obama, a black man, won the White House.

That is not to mention the vicious lies by the birfers, teabaggers, faux noise, republican’t congresscritters, electorial losers, quitters, loudmouths like Limbaugh, O’rielly, Beck, Hannity, coulter, malkin ET Al about his birth, religion, education, family, healthcare … etc.

No democratic politician ever shouted out “YOU LIE” during a Bush speech before congress (even though Bush did lie about WMD’s, unlike Obama who didn’t lie about the health care bill.)

For some reason the reich wing hate and vitriol seems hyped up as if on steroids, but Obama hasn’t violated international law, started an illegal war, broke the Geneva Convention, illegally wiretapped US citizens, ignored intell about an attack on the US, used his office to further reich wing illegally thru subordinates, allowed his VP unconstitutional powers, and prevented investigations into his illegal actions, ignored congressional investigations, thrown away a surplus, destroyed the economy (he did however inherit a wrecked one)…..

It is very interesting the batshit crazy loonies in the reich wing act like he already has done everything Bush got away with.

They do things like this;

On July 27, 2008, a politically motivated[1][2] fatal shooting took place at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, gunman Jim David Adkisson fired a shotgun at members of the congregation during a youth performance of a musical, killing two people and wounding seven others.

On May 31, 2009, Tiller was shot and killed, allegedly by anti-abortion activist Scott Roeder, as he served as an usher during the Sunday morning service at his church in Wichita. (Bill O seems to have gotten what he wanted here)

Jun 10, 2009 James von Brunn entered the building and shot security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns, who died from his injuries. Von Brunn is a white supremacist and Holocaust denier who had previously been arrested and convicted for entering a federal building with various weapons in 1981

May 30, 2009 Shawna Forde, a rising star in the xenophobic, anti-immigrant militia movement has been arrested for her role in a home invasion that left two dead, including a 9 year old girl.

Apr 4, 2009 3 Pittsburgh Police Officers Shot Dead; Alleged Gunman Arrested Richard Poplawski feared “the Obama gun ban that’s on the way” and “didn’t like our rights being infringed upon.”

It seems the reich wing is quite unhinged, and completely out of their minds with hate, rage and seemingly violent intentions since they lost an election, unlike the progressive movement in 2000 .

there is a difference ….

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6 Responses to “A very real difference”

  1. Temple Of The Dog says:

    Amen!

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  3. kayinmaine says:

    Great post, Clif! The reich wing of America was and is unhinged because they can’t stand the fact Obama is not pure white. To them, this is an impeachable offense!

    Idiots they are.

    Our nation is not safe with these buffoons in it.

  4. kayinmaine says:

    Have the republicans forgotten about the last 8 years? Yep! They’re choosing to ignore what George Bush & Dick Cheney wrought on our nation, of course, because it makes it easier to face each day now. They have to blame the black man in the White House for all the Bush Regime did, so future history books will reflect that the Regime did nothing wrong. A rewriting of history is what allows the right wing to survive!

    They don’t deserve to go on. They deserve to have their own health care reform plan to die quickly. See?

  5. Grant in Texas says:

    Faux News is going orgasmic over Sarah Palin’s book being #1 before anyone has even read it. Dennis Miller on O’Reilly can’t wait to get his hands on a copy.

    O’Reilly: “Sarah Palin, an amazing woman.”

    Miller: “I’m a Palin fan because she irritates just the right people.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-PkbO8ddY

  6. Grant in Texas says:

    Looks like some Alaskans are asking for the door not to hit Sarah on the ass:

    http://alaskadispatch.com/blogs/tundra-talk/1683-influential-but-not-in-a-good-way