28 Responses to “Obviously Glenn Beck has 8 more hemorrhoids up his ass or maybe he’s just a typical rich white guy who doesn’t understand that there are some Americans who can’t afford healthcare without the cushy job?”

1. Clif
   July 15th, 2009 @ 8:28 pm

   If they removed eight hemorrhoids from his ass, why does he speak through the ugliest one?

2. kayinmaine
   July 15th, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

   LOL Clif. Good question! Don’t know the answer!

3. kayinmaine
   July 15th, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

   I found the answer Clif!: I think Glenn Beck has 100 hemorrhoids in his ugly mouth. This explains all the blood, puss, and shit that seeps from his mouth each day.

4. Chris from Maine
   July 15th, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

   I told people Beck would become more and more unhinged until one day he will cross the line into downright lunacy, if he hasnt already.

   This is just more evidence of that. His show has devolved into conspiracy theories, veiled religious messages, and just basic idiocy.

   It will be sad when the day comes when they have to put the straight jacket on him and take him away, but I suppose people were warned.

   The real sad part is that probably people will listen to Beck and start killing other people because of what he says. Its happened already (arguably) and it will increase as he descends to madness.

5. kayinmaine
   July 16th, 2009 @ 6:59 am

   Chris, maybe he’ll commit suicide behind the mic one day? Hey, could be. Listening to him yesterday I think the day is near!

6. madhatter
   July 16th, 2009 @ 12:27 pm

   Have you taken the time to look at what this healthcare proposal is, beside being government provided.
   It is government rationed healthcare and even your elected nutcase has said the government will decide if you need the care.
   I feel really comfortable with obama and his minions deciding if my father is worth the cost of treatment or should we just let him die. This is a fine program if you are young and healthy but you better stay that way and not get old.

   Sorry Id-a-jet, you are conflating the current insurance industry business model with thed proposal by our president to ADD a public option to the current rationed care business model of deny claims cut off policies when needed and cherry pick the healthy by the insurance industry.

   The insurance industry already hands the old off to medicare, and many sick to medicade, both public options, so as usual YOU lie.

7. madhatter
   July 16th, 2009 @ 4:17 pm

   Clif,

   You are not well informed on the statements your president has made. He clearly said choices will have to made if treatment of the sick is worth the cost. If you earned a living and paid taxes you might be concerned as well, but since you live off the government and have government paid for medical care already, nothing will change for you. There are those who don’t mind paying for better health care.

   And dippy shit if you stopped LYING I would stop correcting the record son.

   Don’t like the record being corrected, stop lying HERE

8. kayinmaine
   July 16th, 2009 @ 6:46 pm

   Oh yes, our current healthcare system would never cut off benefits to those who need it! Those with preexisting conditions can only get new healthcare insurance IF THEY’RE WILLING TO PAY OUT OF THEIR ASS FOR IT. If not, they’re denied. Some providers won’t even insure anyone with a preexisting condition. And then there are those who get in a car accident and their car insurance will pay up to $300,000 and then your medical/health insurance may or may not kick in after that. What is the person left with a large bill depending on the injury in the amoutn of $30,000 or $250,000! Huh? What then? Oh that’s right! MOST BANKRUPTCIES IN AMERICA ARE BECAUSE OF MEDICAL BILLS! Wouldn’t it be nice to only be charged $30 for an office visit? Or nothing for a broken arm etc?

   Most people who pay for healthcare through their work have their annual checkups with their doctor paid for and most are healthy. The health insurance industry does not like sick people. They like healthy people paying for nothing. Oh, but you wingers are fine with this!

   As Clif pointed out, with the public option, YOUR CURRENT HEALTH COVERAGE WILL NOT CHANGE, YOUR DOCTOR WILL NOT CHANGE, AND YOUR CURRENT SITUATION WILL NOT CHANGE. What will change is you deciding if you want to stay with your current provider or if you want to choose the low cost/free option. If you chose the ladder, nothing changes after that either! You still have your same doctor, your annual checkups, and you will be covered no matter what your current injury is.

   By the way, there are frivolous doctors out there who act like a car mechanic: THEY FIX EVERYTHING BUT THE ACTUAL PROBLEM…………CHARGING YOU HIGH PRICES ALONG THE WAY! This needs to stop. PROFIT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS CORRUPTING IT AND IT’S MAKING OUR CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM VERY EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE!

9. kayinmaine
   July 16th, 2009 @ 6:59 pm

   Here’s what the House has come up with:

   http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/hr3200_summary.pdf

   And here it is in full since you neocons never click on any of the links I provide:

   SUMMARY
   The bill provides quality affordable health care for all Americans and controls health care cost growth. Key provisions of the bill being released this week include:

   * COVERAGE AND CHOICE
   * AFFORDABILITY
   * SHARED RESPONSIBILITY
   * CONTROLLING COSTS
   * PREVENTION AND WELLNESS
   * WORKFORCE INVESTMENTS

   I. COVERAGE AND CHOICE
   The bill builds on what works in today’s health care system and fixes the parts that are broken. It protects current coverage – allowing individuals to keep the insurance they have if they like it – and preserves choice of doctors, hospitals, and health plans. It achieves these reforms through:

   * A Health Insurance Exchange. The new Health Insurance Exchange creates a transparent and functional marketplace for individuals and small employers to comparison shop among private and public insurers. It works with state insurance departments to set and enforce insurance reforms and consumer protections, facilitates enrollment, and administers affordability credits to help low‐ and middle‐income individuals and families purchase insurance. Over time, the Exchange will be opened to additional employers as another choice for covering their employees. States may opt to operate the Exchange in lieu of the national Exchange provided they follow the federal rules.
   * A public health insurance option. One of the many choices of health insurance within the health insurance Exchange is a public health insurance option. It will be a new choice in many areas of our country dominated by just one or two private insurers today. The public option will operate on a level playing field. It will be subject to the same market reforms and consumer protections as other private plans in the Exchange and it will be self‐sustaining – financed only by its premiums.
   * Guaranteed coverage and insurance market reforms. Insurance companies will no longer be able to engage in discriminatory practices that enable them to refuse to sell or renew policies today due to an individual’s health status. In addition, they can no longer exclude coverage of treatments for pre‐existing health conditions. The bill also protects consumers by prohibiting lifetime and annual limits on benefits. It also limits the ability of insurance companies to charge higher rates due to health status, gender, or other factors. Under the proposal, premiums can vary based only on age (no more than 2:1), geography and family size.
   * Essential benefits. A new independent Advisory Committee with practicing providers and other health care experts, chaired by the Surgeon General, will recommend a benefit package based on standards set in the law. This new essential benefit package will serve as the basic benefit package for coverage in the Exchange and over time will become the minimum quality standard for employer plans. The basic package will include preventive services with no cost‐sharing, mental health services, oral health and vision for children, and caps the amount of money a person or family spends on covered services in a year.

   II. AFFORDABILITY
   To ensure that all Americans have affordable health coverage the bill:

   * Provides sliding scale affordability credits. The affordability credits will be available to low‐ and moderate‐ income individuals and families. The credits are most generous for those who are just above the proposed new Medicaid eligibility levels; the credits decline with income (and so premium and cost‐sharing support is more limited as your income increases) and are completely phased out when income reaches 400 percent of the federal poverty level ($43,000 for an individual or $88,000 for a family of four). The affordability credits will not only make insurance premiums affordable, they will also reduce cost‐sharing to levels that ensure access to care. The Exchange administers the affordability credits with other federal and state entities, such as local Social Security offices and state Medicaid agencies.
   * Caps annual out‐of‐pocket spending. All new policies will cap annual out‐of‐pocket spending to prevent bankruptcies from medical expenses.
   * Increased competition: The creation of the Health Insurance Exchange and the inclusion of a public health insurance option will make health insurance more affordable by opening many market areas in our country to new competition, spurring efficiency and transparency.
   * Expands Medicaid. Individuals and families with incomes at or below 133 percent of the federal poverty level will be eligible for an expanded and improved Medicaid program. Recognizing the budget challenges in many states, this expansion will be fully federally financed. To improve provider participation in this vital safety net – particularly for low‐income children, individuals with disabilities and people with mental illnesses – reimbursement rates for primary care services will be increased with new federal funding.
   * Improves Medicare. Senior citizens and people with disabilities will benefit from provisions that fill the donut hole over time in the Part D drug program, eliminate cost‐sharing for preventive services, improve the low‐income subsidy programs in Medicare, fix physician payments, and make other program improvements. The bill will also address future fiscal challenges by improving payment accuracy, encouraging delivery system reforms and extending solvency of the Medicare Trust Fund.

   III. SHARED RESPONSIBILITY
   The bill creates shared responsibility among individuals, employers and government to ensure that all Americans have affordable coverage of essential health benefits.

   * Individual responsibility. Except in cases of hardship, once market reforms and affordability credits are in effect, individuals will be responsible for obtaining and maintaining health insurance coverage. Those who choose to not obtain coverage will pay a penalty of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income above a specified level.
   * Employer responsibility. The proposal builds on the employer‐sponsored coverage that exists today. Employers will have the option of providing health insurance coverage for their workers or contributing funds on their behalf. Employers that choose to contribute will pay an amount based on eight percent of their payroll. Employers that choose to offer coverage must meet minimum benefit and contribution requirements specified in the proposal.
   * Assistance for small employers. Recognizing the special needs of small businesses, the smallest businesses (payroll that does not exceed $250,000) are exempt from the employer responsibility requirement. The payroll penalty would then phase in starting at 2% for firms with annual payrolls over $250,000 rising to the full 8 percent penalty for firms with annual payrolls above $400,000. In addition, a new small business tax credit will be available for those firms who want to provide health coverage to their workers. In addition to the targeted assistance, the Exchange and market reforms provide a long‐sought opportunity for small businesses to benefit from a more organized, efficient marketplace in which to purchase coverage.
   * Government responsibility. The government is responsible for ensuring that every American can afford quality health insurance, through the new affordability credits, insurance reforms, consumer protections, and improvements to Medicare and Medicaid.

   IV. PREVENTION AND WELLNESS
   Prevention and wellness measures of the bill include:

   * Expansion of Community Health Centers;
   * Prohibition of cost‐sharing for preventive services;
   * Creation of community‐based programs to deliver prevention and wellness services;
   * A focus on community‐based programs and new data collection efforts to better identify and address racial, ethnic, regional and other health disparities;
   * Funds to strengthen state, local, tribal and territorial public health departments and programs.

   V. WORKFORCE INVESTMENTS
   The bill expands the health care workforce through:

   * Increased funding for the National Health Service Corp;
   * More training of primary care doctors and an expansion of the pipeline of individuals going into health professions, including primary care, nursing and public health;
   * Greater support for workforce diversity;
   * Expansion of scholarships and loans for individuals in needed professions and shortage areas;
   * Encouragement of training of primary care physicians by taking steps to increase physician training outside the hospital, where most primary care is delivered, and redistributes unfilled graduate medical education residency slots for purposes of training more primary care physicians. The proposal also improves accountability for graduate medical education funding to ensure that physicians are trained with the skills needed to practice health care in the 21st century.

   VI. CONTROLLING COSTS
   The bill will reduce the growth in health care spending in a numerous ways. Investing in health care through stronger prevention and wellness measures, increasing access to primary care, health care delivery system reform, the Health Insurance Exchange and the public health insurance option, improvements in payment accuracy and reforms to Medicare and Medicaid will all help slow the growth of health care costs over time. These savings will accrue to families, employers, and taxpayers.

   * Modernization and improvement of Medicare. The bill implements major delivery system reform in Medicare to reward efficient provision of health care, rolling out innovative concepts such as accountable care organizations, medical homes, and bundling of acute and post‐acute provider payments. New payment incentives aim to decrease preventable hospital readmissions, expanding this policy over time to recognize that physicians and post‐acute providers also play an important role in avoiding readmissions. The bill improves the Medicare Part D program by creating new consumer protections for Medicare Advantage Plans, eliminating the “donut hole” and improving low‐income subsidy programs, so that Medicare is affordable for all seniors and other eligible individuals. A centerpiece of the proposal is a complete reform of the flawed physician payment mechanism in Medicare (the so‐called sustainable growth rate or “SGR” formula), with an update that wipes away accumulated deficits, provides for a fresh start, and rewards primary care services, care coordination and efficiency.
   * Innovation and delivery reform through the public health insurance option. The public health insurance option will be empowered to implement innovative delivery reform initiatives so that it is a nimble purchaser of health care and gets more value for each health care dollar. It will expand upon the experiments put forth in Medicare and be provided the flexibility to implement value‐based purchasing, accountable care organizations, medical homes, and bundled payments. These features will ensure the public option is a leader in efficient delivery of quality care, spurring competition with private plans.
   * Improving payment accuracy and eliminating overpayments. The bill eliminates overpayments to Medicare Advantage plans and improves payment accuracy for numerous other providers, following recommendations by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission and the President. These steps will extend Medicare Trust Fund solvency, and put Medicare on stronger financial footing for the future.
   * Preventing waste, fraud and abuse. New tools will be provided to combat waste, fraud and abuse within the entire health care system. Within Medicare, new authorities allow for pre‐enrollment screening of providers and suppliers, permit designation of certain areas as being at elevated risk of fraud to implement enhanced oversight, and require compliance programs of providers and suppliers. The new public health insurance option and Health Insurance Exchange will build upon the safeguards and best practices gleaned from experience in other areas.
   * Administrative simplification. The bill will simplify the paperwork burden that adds tremendous costs and hassles for patients, providers, and businesses today.

   PREPARED BY THE HOUSE COMMITTEES ON WAYS AND MEANS, ENERGY AND COMMERCE, AND EDUCATION AND LABOR JULY 14, 2009

10. madhatter
    July 16th, 2009 @ 7:19 pm

    No one says healthcare doesn’t need some tweaking but a national plan is too far off the deep end.

    “Employers will have the option of providing health insurance coverage for their workers or contributing funds on their behalf. Employers that choose to contribute will pay an amount based on eight percent of their payroll.”

    That is a no brain er because you can’t get insurance for 8% unless you make 150K per year. I an employee makes 40k that cost $3200, why would you not go with obamacare. Employers will drop coverage by the millions and who is going to pay for it. They will have to ration care which means you smoke, you have lung cancer, you die.

    “PROFIT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS CORRUPTING IT AND IT’S MAKING OUR CURRENT HEALTHCARE SYSTEM VERY EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE!”

    Take the profit out of anything and who wants to do it. Would you clean houses if you did not make a profit? Would anyone start a business if they could not make a profit, doubt it because why would they.

    The next one is a death nail for small businesses.
    The payroll penalty would then phase in starting at 2% for firms with annual payrolls over $250,000 rising to the full 8 percent penalty for firms with annual payrolls above $400,000.

    10 employees making $40,000 per year and you have to pay 8% penalty. Takes the whole incentive out of employing anyone, stay small and don’t pay the penalty.

    “Preventing waste, fraud and abuse” You are talking about the government aren’t you. They have done a horrendous job preventing abuse of medicare, medicaid and plane toilets. Now with trillions at stake the opportunities are vast.

11. madhatter
    July 16th, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

    Nice talking points that don’t work.

    “Take the profit out of healthcare”, why would anyone go into it. Why would a physician go to 12-14 years of schooling, amass several hundred thousand dollars of debt, if there is no profit. Why build new hospitals, invest in new technology if there is no profit. Would you clean houses for no profit.

    Emphasis on prevention. Who is the sickest in our society, the poor and the old so you treat the poor and let the old die, thats called rationing healthcare for the greater good. You smoke, have lung cancer, sorry it costs to much to treat you so you are going to die.

    Employers will discontinue providing benefits by the hundreds of thousands because it is cheaper to pay 8% than what it currently costs, who pays for all of those?
    Small business will make adjustments to pay for the 8%, lay off 10% of their work force. Oops that will mean higher unemployment and we all pay for their care as well

    Control abuse, you are talking about the government who cannot control abuse with medicare and medicaid. Now you put trillions out there and the fraud will be massive.

12. madhatter
    July 16th, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

    Are you going to clean houses for no profit?

    Employers will drop coverage by the thousands because paying 8% is a lot cheaper than what it cost currently.

    Small business will just lay off 10% of their workers to pay for it so unemployment goes up.

    National healthcare accomplishes what obama and the democrats want. The majority of the people relying on the government to control their lives.

13. madhatter
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

    http://healthadministrationbureau.com/

    Thought you would want to see this

14. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

    You’re wrong once again. Please provide a link backing up your statements please, because what you’re saying it’s OKAY FOR WALMART TO COME TO TOWN TO BE COMPETITION TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND YOU’RE ALSO SAYING THAT IF ONE BANK FAILS, THEY ALL FAIL.

    You’re stupid, but you would be smart to back up your claim THAT IF THERE IS ONE MORE OPTION IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY (one that is low cost) IT WOULD SINK HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE A CANNONBALL THROWN OVER THE SIDE OF A SHIP. Can’t wait to see your proof of this happening.

15. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

    Sorry, I hadn’t hit refresh so I didn’t see your link. I’m sure the “Health Administration Bureau” is a right wing think tank group and not official. Just a guess.

16. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

    Oh yes, according to Mad Idiots, doctors are going to quit the medical field because they won’t be able to vacation in the South of France! By the way, there are many lawyers in this country who don’t care about being filthy rich. Many of them aren’t, and yet, there they are going to work everyday representing people in their area so they can have a fair trial or get some justice. Not every doctor or lawyer in this country is all about profits! Those are the doctors we should keep because they are in it to heal/help people. Those that go in for the big boat & house are the ones who help in driving up the cost of healthcare!

17. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:25 pm

    Mad Idiot, you need to list out how to fix our current healthcare system so those who don’t have insurance can get the healthcare they need without breaking the bank. Right now, it cost at least $100 for an office visit for those without insurance and that doesn’t include the cost of any testing either. Tell us the way to fix the system.

18. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:34 pm

    Here’s a good article attacking both sides about the cost of paying doctors for their services:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/weekinreview/29berenson.html

19. kayinmaine
    July 16th, 2009 @ 8:52 pm

    Michelle Bachmann is spreading lies about Obama’s plan:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/16/bachmann-misreads-health-care/

20. Lisa K.
    July 16th, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

    Calling The Health Administration Bureau a think tank is flattering it. It’s essentially Swift Boaters on HealthCare.

    http://healthadministrationbureau.com/

    Read it and die laughing.

21. Clif
    July 16th, 2009 @ 10:17 pm

    Lisa, given how far the idiot brigade the GOPers have left have fallen, most what they push now a days is comical at best and insane for the most part.

    mad hatter. capitalist skud-puppy is just a symptom of the derangement syndrome they suffer from drinking the reich-wing kool aid for years.

    hell by the time Obama finishes his eight years in office they will be completely certifiable, but then again many of them are already completely off their rockers,

    “birfers”,

    teabaggers,

    and Militia movement (old men playing Army)

    are just three examples of the derangement syndrome.

22. kayinmaine
    July 17th, 2009 @ 7:07 am

    But Lisa! This organization sounds so important and official! LOL *shaking head* The right wing of this country uses Orwellian titles in the hopes someone will have respect for them. I knew as soon as I read the name of this place it had to be a farce!

23. madhatter
    July 17th, 2009 @ 10:28 am

    Your talking points forgot to include page 1018 of the house bill where it says under limitations on new enrollment where if your employer stops their healthcare plan you cannot get your own and those who have private healtcare cannot change it.

    What this means is total national healthcare or rationed healthcare for all.

    This is not a sustainable system because there are only so many “rich” to pay for our victim society.

24. Grant in Texas
    July 17th, 2009 @ 2:31 pm

    Go anywhere outside of the major cities of America and everywhere are doctors who are Filipino, Indian, Pakistani, etc. practicing family medicine and doing minor surgeries. This has been the case for a couple of decades now. These doctors/nurses are happy to serve their fellow man working for a reasonable rate. I get my medical care at the University of Texas Medical School and notice that so many of our students in medicine are Oriental or South Asian. Seems anymore that many white guys want to only practice medicine in the big cities where many are becoming cosmetic surgeons to rearrange faces/bodies of the rich who can afford to pay for it.

    I broke my arm in the UK in early May. I was seen right away as their “socialized medicine” works on the triage system. However, if I needed a wart removed, I might have to wait a few weeks. My x-rays, seeing doctors twice, and pain medication was FREE and I am not British. I then cruised all over the “socialist” Baltic and not once heard a Dane, Swede, German, Finn, or Estonian complain about the quality of their healthcare. In fact, even though the recession is worldwide, detected a happy populace NOT complaining about every little thing.

    Visiting now in RED state Indiana where every TV in most every restaurant/bar (including McDonald’s) have their Fox News playing loudly. During breakfast this morning at a diner, Fox was reporting that the AVERAGE yearly cost to U.S. employers for a single employee was nearly $5,000 a year, and for a family of four, over $12,000. No wonder our employers here cannot compete in the world market when most other nations have universal healthcare and their employers don’t have to tack on healthcare costs onto the final costs of their products.

25. madhatter
    July 17th, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

    You are right that foreign physicians make up a lot of small town medicine. Some of the reason is they are accepted there because they are the only game in town. Most are just as competent as American born but they do not have the cost of education to pay for and wives who will live in rural America.

    Again I agree that employers will cease providing healthcare if obamacare gets approved. The issue is still who is going to pay for it because someone has to and there won’t be enough “rich” people to make up for all the victim society members.

26. kayinmaine
    July 17th, 2009 @ 5:39 pm

    So let me see if get this straight….the right wingers want competition in all business sectors except for the health industry? Idiots. I heard the right winger who is filling in for Howie Carr this week say that it’s mandatory for all hospitals in America to accept every patient that walks in through the door. This is true, but this is not free healthcare where the person is treated and then walks away without a bill. These Americans most certainly do get charged for the visit…..they just don’t have to pay right then at the hospital! Anyone who has a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital and gets treatment will be responsible for the treatment if they don’t have insurance. Medicaid might pick up the tab if the person is within the income guidelines and the hospital might have a fund to tap into to help with the cost too, but ultimately this patient is going to owe thousands of dollars in the end!

27. J.
    July 18th, 2009 @ 6:52 pm

    Glenn Beck is about the most despicable man on air.

    I can’t believe that miserable, hateful fucktard gets rewarded with a show and book deals. People should just ignore him; act like he isn’t even there. Maybe then he’d go away. They should do the same to Sarah Failin’.

28. kayinmaine
    July 18th, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

    J., you should have heard that hatemonger on the air the next couple of days after he screamed at this caller. He was hoarse and he sounded like more of a lunatic than he did in this video! The man is insane for crying out loud! I think the next time he has surgery the doctor should do a lobotomy. It could save our nation!