62 Responses to “Sen. Susan Collins took out pandemic flu funding out of Obama’s stimulus bill”

1. kayinmaine
   April 27th, 2009 @ 7:07 am

   She also made sure these two items were taken out of the economic stimulus bill too:

   http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/02/05/senator-susan-collins-wants-wheelchair-bound-childrenindividuals-to-be-dumped-on-the-floor-to-fend-for-themselves/

   http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/02/12/senator-susan-collins-of-maine-made-sure-whistleblower-protections-were-stripped-from-the-economic-stimulus-bill/

   Susie-Q only cares about the Military Industrial Complex and protecting them rather than the American people! See? I hate her and always will hate her.

2. Notalib
   April 27th, 2009 @ 8:10 am

   Just one more story being blown out by the media. But it also shows how important it is we do not allow the diseased infected third world countries to invade our country. but you libs love to have this kind of disgusting people invade my country, you get joy and happiness out of living in slums.

3. Thoth
   April 27th, 2009 @ 9:27 am

   The UK must be full of racists if they are being pro-active and testing ALL airline passangers arriving in Britain from Mexico. And what’s the US doing….”oh do you have the sniffles, and you’re coming from Mexico…well come on in our health care is great compared to what you’re getting already.” Janet Napolitano is an idiot!

4. gage
   April 27th, 2009 @ 9:39 am

   Hurray! The puppet show begins!

5. Thoth
   April 27th, 2009 @ 9:50 am

   Man, now even Russia is checking all flights coming from North and South America for swine flu. Man it’s great our country is on top of things.
   http://news.id.msn.com/business/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3252922

6. MaineEric
   April 27th, 2009 @ 10:01 am

   Yet another example of how the Republicans have absolutely no skill in disaster preparedness, or in contingency planning of any kind.

   It is amazing that people still support the comedy that is the republican party.

   Actually, it isn’t so amazing when we consider the people who form the Republican base – the scared, the weak, the cowardly, the unintelligent, the malleable, the moldable, the clueless, the racist, the angry, the hateful – all being controlled by Republican politicians trying their best to ensure that the wealthiest Americans get wealthier. Add in the middle-to-right leaning media, and the lying nutcases like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Boortz, et al., and the crazies in The Base will continue to support positions which are harmful to America, and which are anti-American. People like “notalib”, who, unless he or she is very, very wealthy, is helping prop up those who want nothing less than keeping him out of their elite club.

7. gage
   April 27th, 2009 @ 10:09 am

   Rick Perry wants some of that socialized emergency aid to help his state combat the outbreak there, but, as soon as it’s contained he plans to secede.

   Fear leads to hate — hate leads to anger — anger leads to violence, so the republican’ts should be quite happy about a new outbreak of flu. But, seriously folks, we’ve seen this before — lots of times:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bhRIbXjJ5g

8. gage
   April 27th, 2009 @ 10:13 am

   Yep, I got that off Crooks and Liars – h/t h/t h/t

9. Thoth
   April 27th, 2009 @ 10:26 am

   Since you guys really want to play the party lines on this one, what about Obama not appointing a secretary for HHS along with a surgeon general and he doesn’t have anyone heading the CDC.
   http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21719.html

   Gage, Kay covered the Rick Perry thing a few days ago.

10. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:13 am

    I am so impressed with the level of hatred and ignorance being spewed here by the low level trolls who post comments here.

    I read their comments and laugh knowing that this type of hatred and ignorance is exactly what has destroyed the republican party.

    I laugh knowing that although their hate and ignorance seems to be on the rise their opinions are irrelevant to 68% of the rest of us intelligent, compassionate Americans.

    So to all of you low level, hateful and ignorant trolls, keep on making me laugh because as they say laughing makes one healthier.

11. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:18 am

    I just wonder if these poor, hateful, ignorant trolls have the stamina to continue on for 8 years of ignorance and hate?

    By the way, hows your party doing? Have they come up with any new innovative ideas to help our country yet? Have they found a new, intelligent and dynamic leader yet or are you poor saps still stuck with the likes of Rush, Sarah, Joe The Plumber, Newt, Willard, Bachmann Kantor….R.I.P. G.O.P.

12. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:20 am

    IP, in many ways their derangement syndrome will be much more dangerous to their health then the swine flu will, cause they will grow ever deranged, while the swine flu will pass.

    By summer, the swine flu will be contained, but the delusional fooles who troll here will still be mental cases.

13. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:24 am

    IP, you’re calling Notalib and myself ingrorant when Kay is the one trying to link the influenza to Dick Cheney and the Republican Party?!???
    I’m sorry, but Mother Nature is the developer of this influenza, not the Repubs.

14. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:26 am

    he doesn’t have anyone heading the CDC.

    Really thoth?

    you SURE?

    The CDC Acting Director

    Richard E. Besser, MD

    Richard Besser, MD, took the helm as acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and acting administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substance and Disease Registry on January 22, 2009.

    He began his career at CDC in the Epidemic Intelligence Service working on the epidemiology of food–borne diseases. He has served as the epidemiology section chief in the Respiratory Diseases Branch, acting chief of the Meningitis and Special Pathogens Branch in the National Center for Infectious Disease, and as the medical director of Get Smart: Know When Antibiotics Work, CDC′s national campaign to promote appropriate antibiotic use in the community.

    Damn son looks like you are WRONG AGAIN ………

    Like I said thoth,

    A real derangement syndrome, which make you clowns look shit eating stupid.

    up the meds son …. they aren’t a workin’ fer ya

15. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:29 am

    what about Obama not appointing a secretary for HHS

    New HHS Sec will be Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas

    Damn son even the shit stack you clowns worshiped could “do the google”

    so you seem even stupider then he was.

    sucks eh son?

16. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:31 am

    He is the “ACTING” director Cliff. He is just there until Obama officially announces some one to head the department. So lets not argue on symatics you misspelling idiot.

17. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:33 am

    She hasn’t been appointed yet Clif, but I’m sure she’ll be pushed through today because you “can’t let a good crisis go to waste”.

18. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:35 am

    BTW FOOLE:

    The acting Surgeon General is Rear Admiral Steven K. Galson, M.D., M.P.H.

    Since October 2007, Rear Admiral Steven K. Galson, M.D., M.P.H., has served as the Acting Surgeon General. RADM Galson is also serving as the Acting Assistant Secretary for Health.

    He was Surgeon general before Obama beat your sorry asses in the reich-wing son, and is seems Obama is OK with his continuing service to this great country.

    So Barack Obama does have somebody heading up the CDC;

    So Barack Obama has nominated a Sec for HHS

    So Barack Obama has a surgeon general

    Got any more dumb-shit comments to make idiot?

19. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:39 am

    Um dumbshit, an acting director is heading up the agency;

    he has the full powers of the office, and can do the job.

    Damn you clowns are actually that desperate?

    BTW foole;

    Republicans Put Brakes On Sebelius’ Nomination

    Republicans in the Senate have temporarily blocked Governor Kathleen Sebelius’ nomination as Health and Human Services secretary from moving forward.

    The Kansas governor had been approved by the Senate Finance Committee last Tuesday, and some expected her to be confirmed this week. But when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called for a full Senate vote, his Republican counterpart, Mitch McConnell, objected. McConnell cited the reservations of members of the Senate Finance Committee as his motivation for halting Sebelius’ nomination, according to the Associated Press.

    It is Obama’s fault?

    your derangement syndrome is noted.

20. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:40 am

    Again Clif the key word is “Acting”. Also remember it’s spelled f-o-o-l there isn’t an “e”.

21. Chris from Maine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:42 am

    Another reason Susan Collins should have been defeated.

    Republicans hate spending money, unless of course its on killing brown people or taking things from brown people..

22. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:47 am

    Again Clif the key word is “Acting”.

    Yes son Obama accepts his acting in the position as the head of the CDC and will back him in the swine flu epidemic.

    The man is fully qualified,

    seems to be doing a good job,

    so what has your panties in such a bunch son?

    Your derangement syndrome is noted.

    Also remember it’s spelled f-o-o-l there isn’t an “e”.

    Yes it is if you do it in honor of George Carlin,

    who had an album titled Occupation Foole,

    His statement about spelling it with the “e:

    just to oiss the anal bastards off,

    seems fitting since you fit the bill son.

    he was talking about YOU

    the foole here.

23. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:49 am

    “Another reason Susan Collins should have been defeated.

    Republicans hate spending money, unless of course its on killing brown people or taking things from brown people..”
    But Chris, can’t you see that so far the swine flu has only killed brown people. So she ended up both not spending money and killing brown people at the same time.

24. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:51 am

    killing brown people

    thoth is masturbating mentally again.

25. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:52 am

    “seems fitting since you fit the bill son.
    You’ve blasted people for misspelling words and using poor grammer….so hello pot…..

26. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:56 am

    It is NOT mis-spelled idiot,

    FOOLE is not a mis-spelling, it is intentional moron.

    The E is to get a rise, that is the point stupid,

    damn are you thick.

    No pot kettle thingy son,

    it is intentional thus can not be categorized as a misspelling since misspelling is a mistake.

    George Carlin was right,

    Anal retentive idiots like you and your derangement syndrome will never cease to be the drag they always have been.

27. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 12:07 pm

    “thoth is masturbating mentally again.”
    Keep dreaming Clif, two of my best friends are hispanic, so suck it.

    The last thing Mexico City needs right now is an earthquake…..but sadly it just got rocked. Hey Kay, did Cheney engineer the quake as well???

28. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

    two of my best friends are hispanic, so suck it.

    Reminds me of when I used to hear anal bigots claiming African-American people as “friends” back in the 70’s.

    Me thinks you doth protest too much son.

    and the earthquake was much closer to Acapulco,

    the epicenter was 125-130 miles from Mexico City son.

    still eating the MSM shitballs eh son?

29. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 12:17 pm

    Clif the last thing that that area needs is a strong earthquake, so get over yourself.

30. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

    Sorry son but an earthquake 125 miles from the Mexico City

    will be felt BUT no damage,

    the media talking heads make a big deal with out noting it was a long distance form Mexico City.

    just another shitball for you to eat from the MSM.

    so foole, your derangement syndrome is noted.

31. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

    Kay, actually it was KKKarl Rove, not Dick Cheney, who stomped his feet screeching not to spend money preparing for a pandemic flu scenario, which the swine flu outbreak is in the embryonic stages of resembling,

    Collins just asked KKKarl how far to shove her nose up Rove’s ass, like she usually does …..

32. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 1:46 pm

    two of my best friends are hispanic, so suck it.
    ““““““““““““““““““““`
    Sounds like a racist repig acquaintance of mine who spews racist hate for Obama but than says he has “some” black friends as if this so how makes the idiot pig’s racist comments okay.

33. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

    Thoth aren’t you the one who claimed to be neither a democrat or republican? You sure seem to defend republicans and attack Obama and the democrats a lot. No doubt you are one of the trolls here with multiple identities.

34. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 2:23 pm

    As I have said in the past. The republican party and all of their supporters and media bobbleheads are in desperation mode. They cannot accept the thought of an intelligent black man as their president.

    They will attack Obama for any move he makes because they have nothing else to offer in cases of real solutions.

    Their brand of politics have been soundly denounced by the American people and yet they do not know any better and continue to spew their protests, lies and hate.

    They sat on their asses when the housing crisis began in 2005-2006. They sat on their asses when Bush and the repigs spent money like drunken sailors. They sat on their asses when the Iraq war continued to cost us billions of dollars. They sat on their asses when Bush tortured, broke the FISA laws, etc, etc,.

    Now that they are the party of losers and have become irrelevant they are flapping their gums in a tizzy, wailing, whining and gnashing their teeth at the state of our country YET THEY FORGET WHICH PRESIDENT OR PARTY GOT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

    You losers need to just collectively take one of your thousands of gun and blow your brains out as our country would be A MUCH BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOU LOW LIFE LOSERS, WHINERS, HATERS, TRAITORS.

    SO AGAIN DO THIS COUNTRY A GREAT FAVOR, MOVE TO ONE STATE, SECEDE FROM OUR COUNTRY OR JUST SIMPLY BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT IN A MASS GROUP SUICIDE SO THAT OUR COUNTRY WILL BE RID OF YOU VILE, HATEFUL PEOPLE. YOU ARE LIKE A PLAGUE, A CANCER THAT IS GNAWING AWAY AT OUR GREAT COUNTRY.

35. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

    GEORGE CARLIN’S, “Occupation FOOLE“, for the wingnuts to look at:

    http://www.amazon.com/Occupation-Foole-George-Carlin/dp/B00004X0OI

    You neocons have made it your life’s job to be a fool…oh wait…FOOLE!

36. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:32 pm

    Thanks Clif. I wasn’t sure which butt Sen. Suzie’s head was up….either Dick Cheney’s or KKKarl Rove! Some days it’s difficult to keep up!

37. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:41 pm

    I think it’s safe to say with Cheney on the outside of government and Donald Rumsfeld still at the Pentagon….AMERICA IS GOING TO SUFFER GREAT PAIN. THESE TWO AMERICA HATERS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BE LAUNCHING NUKES AT AMERICA, WILL BE SPREADING HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUSES AROUND AMERICA, AND WILL TRY OUT CHEMICAL WARFARE ON AMERICA…..just for the fun in killing Americans! Yes, that’s right. Rummy & Cheney have done this sort of thing for years on various levels…

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/12/MNG468MM8N1.DTL

    In Olson’s case, it took the government until 1975 to admit to the LSD experiment. When an investigation of CIA abuses exposed the facts in 1975, two White House aides named Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld helped set up a meeting at which President Gerald Ford apologized to the Olson family.
    
    The goal, according to a declassified White House memo, was to avert a lawsuit in which it “may become apparent that we are concealing evidence for national security reasons.”

    What evidence was concealed, the memo does not reveal. But people who are far from wild-eyed conspiracy theorists accept the plausibility of Frank Olson’s death as an execution.

    Among them is Army intelligence veteran Norman G. Cournoyer, 85, who worked with Olson at Detrick and became one of his closest friends.

    “If the question is, did Frank commit suicide, my answer is absolutely, positively not,” says Cournoyer, now frail and wheelchair-bound, living in Amherst, Mass.
    
    Why would he have been killed?

    “To shut him up,” Cournoyer says. “Frank was a talker. His concept of being a real American had changed. He wasn’t sure we should be in germ warfare, at the end.”

38. Erik Prince
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm

    http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/27/susan-collins-ashamed-of-her-hatchet-job-on-flu-preparedness/

    They’re working here KAY, FDL is having a blast today with the distinguished Senator’s staffing group.

    Go get ‘em!

39. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:49 pm

    Hey Thoth! Anthrax is found naturally in the soil, but it IS MAN WHO WEAPONIZES IT. Here’s how it most likely went down….Dick Cheney after 9/11 made a phone call to Rummy and then Rummy called Fort Detrick to get that weaponized anthrax in the mail to liberals pronto! See?

    There are missing viles of deadly viruses out of Fort Detrick right now:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/is-swine-flu-a-biological-weapon.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/22/AR2009042202005.html

    Who has these viles? Dick Cheney? Could be. Donald Rumsfeld? Could be. One of their cronies over at Fort Detrick, you know, the same guy who sent out the anthrax virus back in October 2001? Hey, could be, because as of right now the only guy to talk about the anthrax attacks MYSTERIOUSLY DIED OF SUICIDE RIGHT BEFORE HE WAS GOING TO PLEAD HIS INNOCENCE AND WAS GOING TO MOST LIKELY NAME THE VP AND HIS PIGS AS THE GUYS WHO WANTED TO KILL AMERICANS…

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9730

    Any information you have DISPROVING what I’ve typed here would be greatly appreciated! Until then, ANY BIOLOGICAL, CHEMICAL, OR NUCLEAR ATTACK ON AMERICA WILL BE BLAMED ON CHENEY & RUMSFELD AND THEIR BUDDIES AT FORT DETRICK!

40. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:51 pm

    Thanks for the link Erik! I just left a comment.

41. Light29ID
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    Sounds like the Messiah let swine flu happen in order to advance his agenda…

    Ops, was I channeling MoveOn.org and the Jew killer George Soros????

42. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 3:56 pm

    Here’s a great comment by ViolaLee at FDL who called Sen. Suzie-Q’s office today:

    http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/27/got-flu-thank-susan-collins/#comment-1888399

    ViolaLee April 27th, 2009 at 11:20 am 53
    In response to brendanscalling @ 6 (show text)

    I called Sen. Collins Washington office at about 1:30, and got an ARTFUL DODGE. I asked if it was true that Sen Collins had stripped the funding for pandemic flu prevention/control out of the Stim Bill. The aide (female) said yes, she stripped it because the Stim Bill was an “emergency” spending bill, and therefore not appropriate for pandemic flu prevention/control funding. BUT, the aide quickly added, I should rest assured that the funding for this program was passed in the omnibus spending bill that passed a month later. Therefore, the aide assured me, the funding was indeed there, and the president had signed it into law. I asked if Senator Collins had voted for that omnibus spending bill, and the aide said (without skipping a beat) that the omnibus bill had indeed passed, and the funds indeed were included in that bill. I asked again if Senator Collins had voted for the omnibus spending bill containing the pandemic flu funds, and after an awkward silence the aide said that Collins had voted against the omnibus bill. I responded by saying that Senator Collins “leadership” was not appreciated, and said good bye. From the artfulness of this dodge, I think it is clear that Sen. Collin’s office understands that they have no solid ground for defending Collins. They explain Collin’s stripping out of the pandemic flu funding from the Stim Bill by saying that it just wasn’t the correct spending bill for this funding, and then they imply that Collins supports the funding by stating that the funding was included in the subsequent omnibus funding bill, which passed and was signed into law by Pres Obama. But when pressed, Collin’s office has to admit that Collin’s voted AGAINST the bill that contained the funding. It probably took them several hours of not answering the phone before they came up with this dodge, but I hope it doesn’t fool any of her constituents. There is intelligence in Maine, I know there is.

    Poor Suzie-Q! She’s got her staff trying to find LIES ANSWERS to the questions to defend ole Suzie at all costs! Because…..it’s all about defending Suzie and not the American people! Spit. Gawd I hate her….more than beets & liver.

43. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:24 pm

    Ops, was I channeling MoveOn.org and the Jew killer George Soros????

    No maggot, just pulling another stupid comment out of your asshole.

    like you usually do

44. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:25 pm

    Holy crap you’re getting your news from Alex Jones?!? Well, there’s your problem Kay. So when are the chemtrail threads going to start?

    The swine flu has been around since the 20s, but it has been laying pretty dormant the past few decades. Scientists are starting to think that the strain mutated into the form that we are seeing now.

    As for your viles it looks like those were destroyed.
    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1658327

45. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:53 pm

    As for your viles it looks like those were destroyed..

    NOT so fast FOOLE;

    An investigation of three disease samples missing from a Fort Detrick lab found that the samples were likely destroyed, according to Army officials..

    In other words MAYBE,

    they don’t know for sure,

    The decision to halt research for the inventory came after a review of inventory controls prompted by the FBI’s conclusion that Fort Detrick scientist Bruce E. Ivins was responsible for the anthrax mailings that killed five people and sickened 17 others in 2001.

    In other words they had a scapegoat so they stopped trying to find the truth.

    and trust me on this one,

    If you destroy anything that is sensitive material in the military, you are supposed to document it,

    I know from my service.

    If their is NO record of the destruction it means no one documented destroying it.

    Which by military standards means they can not say it WAS destroyed,

    They used the weasel way out maybe or likely destroyed.

    So as usual you tried to claim something which IS NOT proven at all.

    Thoth, typical foole in action.

46. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

    “So as usual you tried to claim something which IS NOT proven at all.”
    Oh, you mean kid of like how Kay is trying to prove that all of this was engineered by Cheney. Please Clif, you guys are certifiable.
    Just go back to reading and listening to Alex Jones.

47. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

    Okay, so we have to BELIEVE FORT DETRICK’S INVESTIGATION INTO ITSELF? Bah hahahahaha! I’m sorry, but on my end, that’s not going to happen. Knowing that Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Fort Detrick were involved in the anthrax attacks, there is nothing that is going to get me to believe these viles have been accounted for and everyone is safe now. Nope! Not gonna believe it! Cheney & Rummy have for years loved the idea of killing Americans using military crap on us…………and our soldiers.

48. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:58 pm

    Yo shit for brains, I don’t listen to Alex Jones, so you are pissing in the wind on that one foole.

    YOU claimed they were “destroyed” when the article YOU linked to said MAYBE

    So whine someplace else foole.

49. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

    Okay, Thoth, who ordered the anthrax to be sent out from Fort Detrick? Huh? You must know since you believe Cheney & Rummy & Fort Detrick side of the story.

50. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

    Thoth, you listen to Glenn Beck, Ass Limbo, and Fox News! Alex Jones can’t even compete with those right wing loonies!

51. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

    And Light29IDjet, can you prove it was President Obama who started the swine flu outbreak?

52. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:01 pm

    Kay the article say the army THINKS maybe they were destroyed ….. and says after they blamed Dr Ivins they stopped looking for the vials, which means they wanna claim they were destroyed or Ivins stole them.

    The blog foole TRIED but FAILED to claim it was proof positive.

    Typical EPIC FAIL by the blog foole.

    What else would we expect from the idiot

53. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

    Swine Flu has been around for over a century,

    Swine influenza virus (referred to as SIV) refers to influenza cases that are caused by Orthomyxoviruses that are endemic to pig populations

    It is what caused the pandemic of 1918, and in 1976, it killed an army recruit at Ft Dix, causing a smaller panic, because the virus which caused his death was shown to be related to the strain that caused the pandemic of 1918.

    The conspiracy theorists will be mentally masturbating all over this, however it is naturally occurring and has existed long before Obama got elected. So the idiot who masturbates his guns is just full of SHIiTe

    Asia has had more instances, however in crowded places with poverty and large sprawling slums where people and animals live in close proximity the flu viruses of birds and swine come ion close contact daily with humans. The random mutations that evolutions states occurs will sometimes allow transference to human and if the mutation has the correct characteristics, transference between humans also, which seems to be the case here.

    One theory is that Asian and European strains traveled to Mexico in migratory birds or in people, then combined with North American strains in Mexican pig factory farms before jumping over to farm workers. The Mexican health agency acknowledged that the original disease vector of the virus may have been flies multiplying in manure lagoons of pig farms near Perote, Veracruz, owned by Granjas Carroll, a subsidiary of Smithfield Foods.

    No tin foil hat or conspiracy theory needed, just a little biology and understanding of the conditions which cause the flu to arise and spread.

    Hell there is a very good wiki page on it already;

    2009 swine flu outbreak

    I still believe in science including biology and evolution as the simplest explanation over tin foil hats.

54. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

    I know Clif. Anything the wingers say is true I know it’s a lie. LOL See? I never listen to them, Clif! Never!

55. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

    “It is what caused the pandemic of 1918, and in 1976, it killed an army recruit at Ft Dix, causing a smaller panic, because the virus which caused his death was shown to be related to the strain that caused the pandemic of 1918.”
    Clif, I completely agree with you on this, and I eluded to it in a previous posting, but Kay seems to be trying to link this back to Cheney in an Alex Jones sort of way, and it’s complete bs. This is probably a mutated version of the 1918 & 1976 strain, which was not engineered by man.

    Kay, you have no clue who are what I listen to…..I can’t stand Rush or FOX, just like how I can’t stand Olbermann and MSNBC.

56. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 5:45 pm

    Well asshole, I’ve never in my life listened to Alex Jones. I have no clue what channel the guy is on, but I do know there are times when he’s right on about things and then other times when he’s not. Fox News, Glenn Beck, and Ass Limbo? Wrong about everything they’ve ever spewed! Oh, but you listen to them. You have to, because otherwise, you would be demanding the arrest and imprisonment of the Bush Regime instead of running around with teabags hanging from your ears teabagging everything in sight!

    I hate ya, Thoth. I have no link to back that up, I didn’t get the thought from Olbermann or anyone on MSNBC, but I do feel it though! You neocons for years supported & protected George Bush and Fox News, but now that your American Taliban buddies are being exposed, you can’t handle it and are NOW DENYING EVERYTHING YOU EVER STOOD FOR OR SUPPORTED IN THE HOPES AMERICANS MIGHT SEE YOU AS RATIONAL! Sorry pal, way too late for that.

    Americans hate your guts. I personally hate ya and don’t feel the need to hide it either.

57. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 8:12 pm

    Just when you thought they couldn’t get any stupider,

    Conservative Activist: Flu Emergency Is ‘Political Thing’ To Push Sebelius Nomination Through.

    They go and prove they can get shit eating stupid with brain dead ideas like Mexicans are willing to get sick and die just so Obama can get his HHS Sec nomination thru.

    Damn they really are at the bottom of the barrel stage aren’t they?

58. kayinmaine
    April 27th, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

    The neocons are reaching for anything right now, Clif, to get that “tidalwave” of hatred against President Obama just like there was against Bush & Cheney! Well, turns out…Americans despise republiCONS and there isn’t much to change that fact at this point. Ha ha.

59. Thoth
    April 27th, 2009 @ 10:15 pm

    Nice Kay, my most recent post was there, but it looks like either you or Clif (I”m sure that it was you though) deleted it. What’s wrong? Do you have something against hockey now too??

60. Insidious Prophet
    April 27th, 2009 @ 10:48 pm

    Thoth, go phuck yourself you pathetic excuse for a human. Kay can delete your comments whenever she feels like it because it’s her blog. If it bothers you go somewhere elese or start your own little blog where all of your friends can have circle jerks together online.

61. Clif
    April 27th, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

    Sorry FOOLE, but I sent your asinine comment to the waste can because it was asinine just like YOU

    No son GFY

    BTW just for some fooles info, I rarely read media matters.

62. kayinmaine
    April 28th, 2009 @ 5:19 am

    *air boxing Thoth’s face*