Last night before I went to bed, we only had 3-4 inches on the ground and with large snowflakes coming down, I figured the storm was nearing an end, because large snowflakes usually means a short storm. Nope! I was wrong. We woke up to almost 30 inches of snow (some reports are saying we only got 25 inches, but I can attest the snow is deeper than that)! It took me over an hour just to shovel enough space to get my car out to go get some coffee (coffee is everyone’s incentive to shovel after a blizzard! LOL). I can’t work today because my customers have no power still. Speaking of no electricity…
We just got our power back around 10:15am. My son, who did not have school scheduled for today because of teacher workshops, came into my room last night @ 1am and shouted, “Mom! The power is out!”. I got up to find the flashlights and then said to him, “Well, the only thing we can do at this point is go back to sleep”. So, this morning I get up feeling kind of bummed because our kerosene heater is in the garage and this is what I discovered upon opening the kitchen door today (click on images for a larger view)…
We can’t get in and it doesn’t help that 2 feet down from the top is thick ice that I’ve been unable to crack through using my old softball bat! Ugh. Doesn’t matter now since we have our power back, but I did call a couple of local friends to see if we could warm up to their wood stoves if the power was going to be out for a couple of days or more. They were more than happy to help out had it come to that. Great to have friends! 
Our Governor has declared a State of Emergency because of the power outages in the state. The Casco Bay Bridge between Portland and South Portland this morning got stuck in the upright position (it’s fixed now). I’m sorry, but I thought that was hilarious!
More pictures of the aftermath of the Nor’easter we had last night:
Here’s the view looking at the front deck off the kitchen from the driveway (my car is to the right if you can make it out)…
The front yard….
Snow on the back deck looking at it from the inside of our home when we had no electricity…
Here’s what I saw once I was able to push the kitchen door open….
The cah….
And here’s the lovely branch that fell on the roof of the garage in the middle of the night (no damage…it’s just resting on top there)….
Okay, now on to more important issues…
JOAN’S STORY
We had quite a storm last night and for a few hours today my son and I were ‘inconvenienced’, but then I remembered the email I got recently from a reader named, Joan. A snowstorm is the least of HER worries! She gave me permission to reprint the email she sent me. I’m telling you….the next person who complains about their lives has got to remember Joan’s story! And if I hear another Santelli calling ANY American a ‘loser’ for not paying their mortgages I will damn them all to hell! There are tons of Americans like Joan and her husband who are trying to find good paying jobs to keep their homes and are NOT LAZY or are LOSERS as the Wall Street Whores would like us to believe.
Here’s what she told me about how she and her husband are struggling and how angry she feels when someone like Santelli is completely out of touch with reality:
As much as our lives feel difficult at times, we have to remember that there are many out there worse off than ourselves. Agree?
I don’t understand Joan’s story:
Her husband got injured and had no more income… Was he self-employed with no insurance? when did this happen? IE why does he have NO income. At a minimum he should have had unemployment for a period of time.
Where does she live that her house is worth only half of what she owes… The market is bad, but very few areas have lost half their original value.
More importantly, how can we help? Here’s a few things:
1) Joan’s husband should be filing for SS disability by now.
2) Work with the hospital for some sort of payment plan… They are far more forgiving than a mortgage company when paying back bills.
3) Find out what programs local churches have for homeless people… Our church, for example, in conjunction with other area churches houses homeless families in our education building free of charge for just these type of situations.
4) Consider bankruptcy… it’s a harsh step but sometimes a necessary one to hold onto assets.
Wow Joan, did you see an American Taliban Member knows how to figure out your life for ya! Isn’t that great? Yep, after 8 years of this asshole cheerleading our nation as it plummeted, suddenly these same neocons have all the answers!
By the way….
Bah hahahahaha! Bankruptcy is your answer? Did you read the Bankruptcy Bill that the neocons put through under George Bush? Consumers cannot just write off their debt like AIG & others can do! Nope! The right wing Bankruptcy Bill caters to the credit card companies and other Big Businesses. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0312-03.htm
And did you hear that, Joan? Social Security is another quick fix! Yeah, yeah, anyone can just go down in their 40’s and get their SS in 2 days. (Oh please neocon! You know nothing about the real world so please stop acting like you do!)
And JFH, unemployment insurance DOES run out, you know? Oh, but you neocons hate the idea of unemployment! Yep, even the right wing Governors are saying, “fuck off!” to anyone who wants benefits from President Obama’s economic stimulus bill. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/23/obama-gop-campaigns/
Have you been to Florida lately? My parents live on the West Coast and said my realtor was down to their place to visit to buy some real estate to retire to. My mother said to me, “You can purchase a $250,000 home right now for half or less than half”.
Here in Maine the value of a home is 30% less. To refinance is tough because when revalued they end up owing more than their home is worth, which is what Joan explained.
JFH, I have to say though….thanks so much for thinking of that liberal government program called Social Security when you were trying to figure out how to help Joan!
See? We’re all socialists. Feels good, doesn’t it? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, I think so.
And here I am preparing to put in my spring planting of tomatoes tomorrow! We haven’t had a frost in a month so feel it is safe. We can only grow them in Spring and Fall as our summers burn up the vines. I am so tired of the tasteless hardballs they sell at the supermarket.
The Houston economy is still doing fairly well with a net 55,000 new jobs ADDED in 2008, down a bit but we are not in a recession here as yet but folks are cutting back. We are hurting, mostly by low crude oil prices with our many drilling companies putting a hold on new drilling, especially offshore in the deeper waters where most of the new oil leases are located.
Houses are still selling in Houston but then the average price of a median home here has been only three times the median family income compared to California where the median home is ELEVEN times the median income. For some reason, California, Nevada, and Arizona have had a problem with speculators for decades now. Maybe some new real estate law is needed, perhaps? Some of the speculators in the latter two states are Californians, maybe a reason for the “Don’t Californicate Arizona, Nevada, or Oregon” stickers one sees in the West. Florida is the other place rife with speculators. Obama’s plan is to cut these sharks off and only help those honest folks down on their luck, many having lost their jobs.
wow u guys got a ton down there.. we got a little less then a foot, lost power overnight, and its snowing a little again. Its a mess, but hopefully this will be the last big one this year (knock on wood.)
Kay,
I will still take 70 degrees and sunny. Nice to have a youngster at home to help with the shoveling,
Okay, pulling off the kid gloves:
I WAS trying to help, Kay, but don’t tell me that Joan or her husband IS NOT responsible for their predicament. How do you NOT have at least have major medical BEFORE you start thinking about buying a house. Yes, I realize that the Tampa area IS one of the areas that the bubble has collapsed by more than half but that’s for houses over 250K!… “I” don’t own a house over that amount and I make over 100K a year.
What are these injuries that prevent him from working?
How long as her husband been out of work?
This situation could have EASILY occurred during a booming economy, why is Joan’s particular situation different now? About the only thing I can see is that they overexended themselves on the “fake” equity of their home. If the house hadn’t appreciated, they’d owe the hospital instead of the mortgage company.
Please show me where my analysis is wrong…
BTW, I’d love to have particulars on this case, much like Money magazine used to do in the early 80s. For example:
What was Joan’s husband’s income before he was injured?
Why no insurance or why didn’t insurance cover a significant majority of the bills?
What was Joan’s income, she says she was earning $15/ hour but that’s only 30K a year? I assume the job that she was “making good cash” was significantly better than that. Else how else could they refinance for higher payments for their mortgage?
My brother-in-law was out of work for 16 months during the last recession and he didn’t need government assistance. I told him that I had 15K in my reserve funds that I could loan him and yet he never asked for it, yet still made sure he paid his COBRA every month. It CAN be done. Do I have empathy for Joan? Sure. Am I willing to help her out. Probably. Kay, you’ve got my email address, if Joan wants help I might be able to provide a loan and advice on how she can work through this situation…. But forgiving her debt with no repercussions? I can’t go for that.
I would love to be planting tomatoes right now, Grant! I’m so envious of ya.
I’m envious of Skudly too!
Chris, I live in the foothills of the mountains, and man, we get a ton of snow here. You live nearer the ocean where it’s ‘warmer’, hence, the lower snow totals in your area, though, sometimes you guys get walloped and we don’t a laughable amount.
Jees JFH, you’re acting as if there are millions of great paying jobs available for all Americans who want to work to be able to work! Are you fucking kidding me? Do you not understand the plight of Americans right now? Good gawd man, grab your forehead and save yourself!
Here’s how it went with Joan and her husband:
1) They both had very good paying jobs and were paying their mortgage. Everything was normal, normal, normal.
2) Here husband was injured at work (severly obviously! Did he break his back? Is he paralyzed? I don’t know! He’s injured enough that he can’t work and if he can, NO ONE WILL HIRE HIM WITH PRE-EXISTING INJURIES! This happens you know!)
3) He was collecting unemployment
4) She finds a $15/hr job and then loses it (lots of companies are folding in this country remember!)
5) Joan ends up losing her this $15/hour job
6) They’re on the verge of losing their house if one of them doesn’t find a good paying job
7) They’ve exhausted their savings and all other monies they had at their disposal (possibly they have some credit card debt which is the biggie! Many Americans are living on their freaking credit cards, JFH! Jees. This is worse than not paying the mortgage!).
Understand all this?
Other than what I’ve laid out here, we don’t know more about Joan’s life nor is it any of our business to. What we do know, is Joan and her husband ARE THE TYPICAL AMERICAN WHO HAS SUFFERED OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO because of the way the economy was and is.
JOB LOSS IS ONE OF THE TOP 10 REASONS WHY AMERICANS ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES.
Oh Oh…JFH has taken off the kid gloves, everybody run away!!!!
Wasn’t it bUSH who pushed for the ownership society? Where everybody could live the American dream and own a home? Hmmm I wonder if he knew where all this was leading??
Under Raygun & Bush 41 there was the S&L scandal, a crisis brought on by a bill pushed by republican’t senator Phil Gramm which almost collapsed the S&L’s
Today thanks to another bill pushed by republican’t senator Phil Gramm we see a housing/mortgage crisis and a financial crisis left by bUSH 43.
Why do republican’t presidents always seem to leave our country in ruins after they leave office???
But your savior is in now. This was supposed to be all fixed.
So what you are saying had this happened right after the Dot Com bubble bust you friend would not be in the same situation.
Me my wife almost lost our home in 1996 because of layoffs. I don’t recall blaming Clinton for it.
Let’s not forget how it was democrat policies that started this housing market to decline. You know how tis happens whn government intervenes. And is anyone alos aware how this shit started spiraling downwards once the democrats took control of congress in 2006?
Welcome back Carter.
FYI :Insidious Prophet
http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/bill-clinton-glass-steagall-and-the-current-financial-and-mortgage-crisis-part-two-of-an-indepth-investigative-report.html
Kay, you identify an assumption that I made which doesn’t click;
2) Here husband was injured at work (severly obviously! Did he break his back? Is he paralyzed? I don’t know! He’s injured enough that he can’t work and if he can, NO ONE WILL HIRE HIM WITH PRE-EXISTING INJURIES! This happens you know!)
Workman’s comp is VERY quick to handle these cases in most states that I know of… It is illegal for his current employer to fire him based on the injury (provided it was not his own fault, and that is VERY rare, usually the company loses any case that even simple negligence would apply). For jobs that earn enough to afford a house, to paraphrase you: “This DOES happen, but very, very rarely!). I’m almost POSITIVE that he wasn’t injured on the job as any worker, even a contractor, is covered for work accidents either through insurance, bonding, or the legal system.
I see Henry wasn’t paying attention to what President Obama has been saying about the economy: IT’S SO BROKEN THAT IT COULD TAKE YEARS TO FIX THANKS TO GEORGE BUSH.
And JFH, it’s very possible that the job her husband had before he got injured HE CANNOT DO NOW BECAUSE OF HIS INJURY. I don’t know. You don’t know either, but he’s injured enough that he’s unable to find work or go back to the job he was doing for years when life was good.
Why are you arguing with me about this? Is it to divert from the real meaning of Joan’s plight and how her situation is being played out every single day in our country thanks to George Bush’s “economic stimulus for the uber wealthy & Big Business”? Huh?
Maybe he was self-employed? Hey could be! Jees. Again, why are you picking this whole story apart and making it more difficult to understand?
And Henry @ #14? THE REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE UNDER BILL CLINTON, so if you don’t like what happened under Clinton, blame the neocons for passing or doing away with regulations/protections!
Well then what’s fair is fair. Maybe we can share the housing market with the democrat congress who refused to regualte ite:
Watch and weep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Damn that global warming! How dare Mother Nature decide to dump up to 2ft of snow in Maine in February.
The Democrats have tried since the Clinton years to regulate, but it’s the republiCONS who continue to block their attempts! Even John McCain said on the campaign trail that he tried to bring bills/amendments in 2005 to stitch up the holes of banking deregulation that his comrades ripped open, but guess what happened? The republicans controlled both houses of Congress and SLAMMED HIS BILLS/AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOR! Same thing happened when the Democrats took control in 2006 and only had a one seat lead in the Senate (Joe LIEberman, DINO, always sided with the repukes!): THE REPUBLICANS BLOCKED AND IF IT A BILL DID PASS, BUSH DIDN’T SIGN IT INTO LAW!
Ummmmm, Sloth, where in my post did I mention global warming? For my whole 40 years, it snows in Maine from the months of November to as late as April. So nice try in trying to “discredit” global warming by reminding everyone it snows in Maine in February! Another lame attempt by the American Taliban to spew their crap. When it snows in Texas then you’ll believe in it now won’t ya? Oh wait! It went from the high 70’s a couple months ago in Texas and then the next day it was snowing!
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-161294
In January 2009, it was colder in Alabama than it was in Alaska:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jan/17/colder-alabama-alaska/
But hey! If you want to prove global warming isn’t real by saying it snowed in Maine last night, then go ahead wingnut!
Thoth
on Feb 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Damn that global warming! How dare Mother Nature decide to dump up to 2ft of snow in Maine in February.
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Damn are you stupid! It’s called winter. Duh! In Minnesota we can get up to 2-3 feet of snow in one snow fall during the month of March.
I’ll still take sunny and 70. Hope she and her family come out of this alright.
“THE REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE UNDER BILL CLINTON”
The boom under the Clinton years were the sole credit to Crazy Algore. Had he have not invented the internet it would have been slim pickins.
Lets see, you have Clinton as president and a republican congress and things were great so it was Clinton that caused prosperity. You had Bush as president and a democraptic congress when things aren’t so robust so it’s Bushes fault.
Makes sense to me
Henry
on Feb 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
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Part 1 of a free history lesson for the ignorant troll.
1982-The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act - an initiative of the Reagan administration, and was largely authored by lobbyists for the S&L industry–including then lobbyist Fred Thompson. The official description of the bill was “An act to revitalize the housing industry by strengthening the financial stability of home mortgage lending institutions and ensuring the availability of home mortgage loans.” Seven years later, the S&L industry was collapsing. What was the cause? Garn-St. Germain had handed the S&Ls a greatly expanded range of capabilities, allowing them to go head to head with full service banks, but it hadn’t handed them the bank’s regulations. Left to operate in an anarchistic gray area, S&Ls had chased profits, indulged in amazing extravagances and cranked out enough cheap mortgages to fuel a real estate boom.
Part 2 of a free history lesson for the ignorant troll:
1999-The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act- Even so, by 1999 Phil Gramm put forward the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. This act passed out of the Senate on a party-line vote with 100 percent Republican support, including that of John McCain. (To be fair, the bill eventually passed again with a wide margin following revisions in the House.) This act repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act. This may sound like a bunch of Congressperson soup, but the gist of it is that Glass-Steagall was put in place in 1933 to control the rampant speculation that had helped cause the collapse of banking at the outset of the Depression, and to prevent such consolidation of the banks that the nation had all its eggs in one fiscal basket.Remember the bit about how S&Ls failed because they didn’t have the regulations that protected banks? After Gramm-Leach-Bliley, banks didn’t have that protection either.
Damn are you stupid! It’s called winter. Duh! In Minnesota we can get up to 2-3 feet of snow in one snow fall during the month of March.
I live in Denver idiot. Just so you know Insidious Prophet it’s called sarcasm.
Part 3 of a free history lesson for the ignorant troll:
2000 -The Commodity Futures Modernization Act – Gramm wasn’t done. The next year he was back with the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which was slipped into a “must pass” spending bill on the last day of the 106th Congress. This act greatly expanded the scope of futures trading, created new vehicles for speculation and sheltered several investments from regulation. As with both Gramm-Leach-Bliley and Garn-St. Germain, large parts of this bill were written by industry lobbyists. This included the “Enron loophole” that exempted energy trading from regulation, and was written by (big surprise) Enron lobbyists working with Gramm. Not coincidentally, Senator Gramm, the second-largest recipient of campaign contributions from Enron, was also key to legislating the deregulation of California’s energy commodity trading. Thanks to this fortunate trifecta of Gramm-crafted legislation, Enron was able to create “EnronOnline” and trade electricity in California with absolutely no oversight or transparency. They quickly worked out how to game the system. Previously, there had been only one Stage 3 rolling blackout in the history of California. Within months, the system had been manipulated by traders to generate thirty-eight such blackouts and wholesale electrical prices had gone up more than 3000 percent. Despite production capacity equal to four times the demand during winter, energy traders even engineered a blackout in mid-January boom.
Part 3 of the history lesson for the ignorant troll was blocked.
Thoth it’s kinda difficult these days to decipher sarcastic statements from idiotic ones left by the republican’t trolls.
Workman’s comp is VERY quick to handle these cases in most states that I know of…
Lie Number 1
and as proof;
McDonald’s: No workers comp for employee shot protecting patron
What JFH doesn’t admit is the corporations have a very LARGE say in whether comp payments are made or not and most of the time they fight including dragginmg their feet in the determination process and demanding ONLY approved doctors who usually OY handle comp cases get to decide the medical injuries, just like insurance companies do.
Damn son you clowns lost get over it.
Remember all the lovely SAVINGS AND LOAN SCANDALS THE RIGHT WINGERS (including the brothers of George Bush!) PULLED OFF DURING THE 80′S & 90′S? Holy cow! It was a free-for-all for the thieves!
IP I thought it would help coming from someone who has no association with the Republican party.
Wow Insidious! You guys do get way more snow than we do here in Maine. Same with Illinois which is why President Obama laughed & chuckled when his girls had no school in DC because there was an inch or less of snow on the ground. LOL!
Sloth, the only people who are associated with the republic party are the ones with the lowest IQs in America. Sad, but true.
George W. Bush’s presidential library is taking shape in early designs, evolving from separate buildings at Southern Methodist University in Dallas into a single, multistory complex with a policy institute nearly two-thirds bigger than first proposed.
The overall structure has grown to an estimated 207,000 square feet — akin to an average Wal-Mart Super Center — making it more than twice as large as the George Bush Presidential Library and Museum at Texas A&M University in College Station, which is the library for Bush’s father.
Over twice as large as daddy’s …….
Talk about a fucking Oedipus Complex …..
Hey here’s an idea,
why don’t we save a hell of a lot of money,
and just condemn a Local “wally world”,
empty it of Chinese junk,
then dump a huge load of bullshit in the middle.
It would be both poetic and appropriate for the worst president ever.
After all he took a good shit all over this great country the last eight years.
Workmens comp is nice when you get injured but battling the company’s insurance company isn’t much fun as they try to make you feel like a liar and are trying to cheat the company. That happened to me once and I told the insurance investigator to basically go phuck herself after I injured my back on the job.
I P, the military don’t make getting disabled in a combat zone any easier, neither does the VA …. as many who were wounded in Iraq have found out sadly.
They should close all but six VA’s. Keep the six for long term care and fund veteran care through Champus.
Prior to starting my business, I worked in the Workers’ Comp arena and can attest that the employer and the insurance company for the employer DO NOT want to pay claims. They will try to find every excuse in the book to not pay even when the claims are legitimate and it’s obvious to everyone involved that the patient/employee/client was injured. It’s sickening.
The employer’s insurance company will now automatically send out private investigators to take pictures of you too and will define what they see in the picture(s) as something no one else can see! LOL *shaking head*
Exactly Clif! I can picture it…
They should close all but six VA’s. Keep the six for long term care and fund veteran care through Champus.
NO fucking WAY you asshole reich wingers already have found many ways to nickle and dime the vets.
privatization of their care in HMO’s with vouchers is the first step in making vets pay fior their own care,
FUCK OFF AND DIE ASSHOLE
and I mean that on on privatizing and Vet care.
Hey: Idiot Prophet, er, I mean Insidious Prophet, the majority of workers comp cases don’t go through the company.. It’s a direct case between the state and the employee… BTW, you strike as a guy that would immediately claim workers comp on a back injury instead of sucking it up and staying on the job.
Clif, you’ve never explained your disability and how and where you were wounded, please enlighten me.
The employer’s insurance company will now automatically send out private investigators to take pictures of you too and will define what they see in the picture(s) as something no one else can see! LOL *shaking head*
Umm, that’s because MOST worker’s comp cases are bullcrap.
Clif, you’ve never explained your disability and how and where you were wounded, please enlighten me..
I was injured in the line of duty in Iraq according to the US ARMY and it is 100% according to the VA, any other information is NOT needed by an asshole like YOU.
So you can GFY
Walter Reed under George Bush:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2007/04/23/it-took-two-days-for-a-us-soldier-to-be-found-hanging-at-walter-reed/
And then this:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2008/01/29/father-of-a-us-soldier-asks-if-they-are-doing-this-to-her-what-are-they-doing-to-those-young-pfcs-without-parents-by-their-side/
Umm, that’s because MOST worker’s comp cases are bullcrap.
Right and you know this because?
Why are so many won on appeal, just like Social Security disability cases and VA determinations?
BTW shit for brains the Social Security read my military records and accepted my disability from the records.
The VA tried their normal bureaucratic ways of denial but with help from a congresscritter, I was properly adjudicated.
In both cases 100% permanent disablement.
According to the winger, the employer is not involved in the Workers’ Comp process! Oh please. The employer is paying the wages while the employee is out, so yes, they are completely involved. They would much rather have the worker back at work and will go to the ends of the earth to find reasons, even if the employee has tubes sticking out of his or head to drain brain fluids.
Clif, you don’t have to explain your injuries to us. I know what you did in Iraq during the Persian Gulf and you should be commended for it! No winger who comes to my blog would dare do what you did. None.
The only thing JFH has ever served is fries and a coke with a hamburger.
Kay, I really didn’t explain anything to the cretin, just told him to mind his own fucking business cause he had NO right interfering or inquiring in mine ……………………
Exactly Clif! You’re my hero and this is why I always jump into your arms when I need saving from the American Taliban!
JFH
on Feb 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Hey: Idiot Prophet, er, I mean Insidious Prophet, the majority of workers comp cases don’t go through the company.. It’s a direct case between the state and the employee… BTW, you strike as a guy that would immediately claim workers comp on a back injury instead of sucking it up and staying on the job.
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Heh! A lot you know about me dumbass! I didn’t even want to report my injury but was told I had to, I guess when one stands at a left angle due to a vertebrae being locked up from pulling a 1500 lb pallet off of a truck and the pallet jack comes to sudden stop…Oh and by the way fucknutz I had a double hernia for over a year from doing heavy lifting at work and continued doing heavy lifting at work for over a year so please don’t accuse me of not being able to suck it up…you pencil pushing loser.
Or are you a paper shuffling candy ass? I forget.
Exactly Insidious at #51. No need to explain. Back injuries & hernias are the most common injuries (as well as carpal tunnel and neck strains!).
I’ll never forget one patient when I was working in the WC arena who was a logger for a large tree company. He was using a chain saw to cut some logs on the ground when it hit a knot in the wood, bounced back, and almost cut his head off. He saved his own life by reaching inside his neck to squeeze his jugular vein so he could find help, which he did…eventually finding a porch of a house to collapse on. Did the company want to pay for his injury? Nope! They sent him out alone to finish up a job, he almost died, but that wasn’t enough for this guy to get paid for lost time at work!
Clif,
You are either and idiot, stupid or very naive
“NO fucking WAY you asshole reich wingers already have found many ways to nickle and dime the vets.”
Where do you think they train doctors, VA’s, so you are a lab rat you idiot or maybe that is fine with you. I think vets deserve better care but if they closed VA’s where would our future doctors get their training on humans instead of lab animals. Most vets would get far better care in the private sector paid for by Champus. The VA system is the most wasteful, bureaucratic and ineffective form of delivering healthcare in the world. Of course I am sure you are for national healthcare so you should be use to nocare healthcare.
I use to think you were a moron but now you have taken away any doubt.
It is no wonder you hate success, because you have no clue about business. Workers comp is regulated by the state and charged to a company based on the type of business. The companies have no control over claims, they can protst a claim because it makes our rates go up but if it legit we have no control. Stay stupid, it works well for you and just blame everyone else for your failure.
Where do you think they train doctors,
At most university training hospitals where the VA contracts both for the interns and doctors from. The same system most other hospitals use also, they have interns training under fully qualified doctors.
I think
NOT but you keep claiming you do ……
vets deserve better care but if they closed VA’s where would our future doctors get their training on humans instead of lab animals.
So every University hospital all across the entire country needs to be closed, I’m glad some loser from Tulsa is such an expert on this.
And UM dumb fuck, if you’re going to be a doctor and NOT a veterinarian you need to work around human beings in your training and not animals,
It’s sorta like if your gonna be an airline mechanic you need to work on planes and not cars.
damn you say the dumbest things.
Most vets would get far better care in the private sector paid for by Champus.
SEE
Most vets would disagree with you cause vets get the care they need NOT what Champus approves,
see BOZO the VA doesn’t use the Champus system, so care is NOT rationed or denyed to the vets because some pennie pinching bureaucrat at Champus don’t wanna pay the bill.
The VA system is the most wasteful, bureaucratic and ineffective form of delivering healthcare in the world.
Wrong try any system where 30% OF EVERY DOLLAR IS EATEN BY THEIR BILLING AND INSURANCE DEPARTMENTS FOR PAPER WORK AND CLAIMS , NT care for the patient.
Of course I am sure you are for national healthcare so you should be use to nocare healthcare.
Since I use it and you must NOT with all the mis-information you have posted here about it, I think I get good care from my primary physician who isn’t an Intern at all,
I have had the same primary care doctor for the last EIGHT years, and she has been at the VA for well over a decade as a primary care physician.
So as usual your facts were wrong on this one.
It is no wonder you hate success,
Can you post where exactly i said I hate success, dislike fraud, cheats, scams dishonest business practices especially when it leads to the crash in the entire economy, but I don’t hate success.
That is your dishonest LIE about what I post.
Yes I because you have no clue about business. Workers comp is regulated by the state and charged to a company based on the type of business.
OK it is state regulated because before workman’s comp the corps just let the injured workers go and ignored them
The companies have no control over claims, they can protst a claim because it makes our rates go up but if it legit we have no control.
Ahhh legit in whose eyes, the person who is more worried about rates going up or the guy who got injured.
Stay stupid, it works well for you and just blame everyone else for your failure.
What failure?
Can you name the failure you claim I have?
For some reason you keep projecting things to me that do not actually reflect me at all.
why is that?