19 Responses to “Obama/McCain debate: THE HANDSHAKE NOT SEEN AROUND THE WORLD”

1. molly
   October 8th, 2008 @ 9:47 am

   I saw a lot of that type of behavior in the south.

2. carol
   October 8th, 2008 @ 10:09 am

   It goes to show how desrespectful John McCain is….first it’s
   “that one”….which I find very offensive and then not to shake hands after the debate.
   John Mccain is just a sore loser and he knows he lost that debate big time and would not even stay around to talk to people…unlike Sen Obama and Michelle who stayed for 15 mins.
   It is so obvious that this man should NOT repeat NOT be President….is that how is going to behave if he is talking to heads of state and he doesn’t like what they say….just walk off!!!!!
   This man just has no decorum and is an embarassment to America, I think he feels he is owed the Presidency…. nobody is owed the Presidency you have to earn that right and from what john McCain has shown he is a long long way from getting that!!!!

3. JFH
   October 8th, 2008 @ 10:50 am

   I saw a lot of that type of behavior in the south.

   What the hell does that mean?! I’ll put up the manners of the south against the north-east any day of the week.

4. Uncle Fester Lurks
   October 8th, 2008 @ 11:14 am

   Is JFH whining yet again! Wow for someone who is a *successful* consultant you sure spend a lot of time at a progressive blog.

   JFH saya: What the hell does that mean?!

   What are you s-t-u-p-i-d? Do we have to s-p-e-l-l it out for you?
   Do we have to talk slower?

   By the way JFH who does it feel witnessing the collapse of the McCain campaign and the entire GOP right in front of your very eyes? It’s a beautiful thing to see isn’t it? Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

5. Uncle Fester Lurks
   October 8th, 2008 @ 11:16 am

   who = how

   Thought I’d point that out to the braindead neanderthals here.

6. JFH
   October 8th, 2008 @ 11:48 am

   UFL, you sure are a nasty fellow with a lot of hate in you…

   Molly’s statement was both a non sequitur and a questionably observational statement. Is she implying that the south is more rude than other areas? I’ve found many times that rude behavior in others is self-prophesying. If she is implying that the south is rude to minorities more than the rest of the country or the world?… well, that’s just a bullcrap stereotype, at least for any major town, or major or minor city in the south.

7. Grant in Texas
   October 8th, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

   There was an interview in our Houston Chronicle of a retired Church of Christ pastor from Tomball, TX, Rev. Charles Bowers, and his wife about race. He is a “yellow dog” Democrat which is surprising in that the Church of Christ is so fundamentalist. He and his wife, both in their 70’s now, have had a hard time accepting a black candidate for president but have finally decided to vote straight Democratic again.

   Charles can still recall the first time a black man reached out his hand for him to shake. He was 17 and not sure what to do.

   Katherine tries to explain: If you’re taught you can’t drink after someone, or go to school with them, how do you know it’s OK to touch their hand? To this day, she remembers the first black person who waited on her in a department store.

   “I mean, how wild is that? To know how the world is today, to know that was 56 years ago, and I still remember,” she said.

   Some of their Republican friends have sent them emails like the White House painted black, the rose garden turned into a watermelon patch, etc. But this couple, fighting prejudice all of their lives, feels that voting for Obama, they can finally overcome 7 decades of their own prejudice.

   http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/6043737.html

   Now I hope that the Bowers won’t suffer any harmful repercussions for granting this interview by some racists that still exist in their community.

8. Grant in Texas
   October 8th, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

   Askimet….experiment since this posting was just blocked by their software.

   There was an interview in our Houston Chronicle of a retired Church of Christ pastor from Tomball, TX, Rev. Charles Bowers, and his wife about race. He is a “yellow dog” Democrat which is surprising in that the Church of Christ is so fundamentalist. He and his wife, both in their 70’s now, have had a hard time accepting a black candidate for president but have finally decided to vote straight Democratic again.

   Charles can still recall the first time a black man reached out his hand for him to shake. He was 17 and not sure what to do.

   Katherine tries to explain: If you’re taught you can’t drink after someone, or go to school with them, how do you know it’s OK to touch their hand? To this day, she remembers the first black person who waited on her in a department store.

   “I mean, how wild is that? To know how the world is today, to know that was 56 years ago, and I still remember,” she said.

   Some of their Republican friends have sent them emails like the White House painted black, the rose garden turned into a watermelon patch, etc. But this couple, fighting prejudice all of their lives, feels that voting for Obama, they can finally overcome 7 decades of their own prejudice.

   http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/falkenberg/6043737.html

   Now I hope that the Bowers won’t suffer any harmful repercussions for granting this interview by some racists that still exist in their community.

9. Grant in Texas
   October 8th, 2008 @ 12:28 pm

   My first two postings here blocked this morning by the Wordpress Askimet software. I have to quit saying nice things about Obama, I guess…./snark

10. Grant in Texas
    October 8th, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

    I feel we need to move on disparaging a section of our nation as racism is everywhere in America. They may not have any blacks in the Dakotas, but you will hear hate talk about Native Americans there.

    I moved to Houston in 1965 from far south side suburban Chicago and found housing already more integrated here than in Chicago. While finishing up my degree, I was a substitute in the Houston Independent School District that was being integrated. I even taught in 100% black schools that had many white teachers by then. I remember black schools in Indiana weren’t allowed to play in state playoffs and when Crispus Attacks High School finally was allowed in, they won the state championship under their star, The Big “O”, Oscar Robertson. There were court cases here over busing but then there were such battles all over our nation, north and south, Boston and Biloxi. We only had one small riot at all-black Texas Southern University over a policing matter. We had no riots when Detroit, Chicago, Los Angles were burning in the mid-60’s and again right after the MLK assassination. When I entered the U. of Houston in 1965, we already had black students and black athletes. Our homecoming queen in 1968 was Lynn Eusan, the first black winner in the school’s history.

    http://www.thedailycougar.com/static/vol65/35/news/news3.html

    We played Ole Miss but that school would not allow our black athletes to step on the “whites only” grass of their stadium in Oxford, so we played them in the Astrodome. Being only 400 miles away, we had a huge Ole Miss crowd come to Houston as Archie Manning, their star, was leading them in the national rankings. When black Lynn Eusan circled the field at half-time sitting on the back of a convertible wearing her tiara buried in her huge “Afro” hairstyle, the Ole Miss crowd waved their many Confederate flags and booed loudly.

    I was told when I first moved to Texas that “yankees” love the race but hated the individual but that here in the Old South, it was often the other way around. Growing up in the north, I was used to being around blacks, but I attended an all-white rural school, and never really held a conversation with any black folks until I was in college. We had Jim Crow in Indiana with many being refused service in restaurants and hotels/motels. They were “better” than the racists in the South, however,in in that they had not posted signs! Many here in Houston worked around blacks even though the latter were often in the lowest paying positions. You didn’t need to be rich either to have a black woman cleaning and cooking your home (those low-pay domestic jobs since been taken over by Hispanics as have many such jobs). Many children were raised by black Nannies so had a most personal connection.

11. Grant in Texas
    October 8th, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

    My third posting also blocked so will sign off until this evening. If only I were a TROLL Askimet might like me.

12. clif
    October 8th, 2008 @ 1:38 pm

    Is she implying that the south is more rude than other areas?

    No shit for brains,

    She is saying that the south STILL flies flags of treason when they fought to keep African Americans in slavery and still refuse to admit in many places that the African American is the full equal of themselves, in every way, politically, socially, morally and legally.

    To try to dishonestly claim that is NOT true is proof of how LOW you really are son.

    I fucking know this because I have lived “down south” as a “Damn Yankee” for over two decades, even though I was defending their sorry asses.

    I am this rude asshole because you STILL try to defend the traitors who destroyed our military, fought a patently illegal war, promoted torture, and sold the entire economy down the river for as fist full of temporary dollars, and YOU still claim some sort of moral superiority asshole.

    Your nothing more then part of the volkstrum of the hate filled reich wing and their fellow travelers who call Obama a traitor, and worse, because they politically disagree with the fact he is gonna win and put this great country back on the tracks after the last three decades where the ideology YOU subscribe to derailed it numb-nuts.

13. Grant in Texas
    October 8th, 2008 @ 2:11 pm

    Maureen Dowd addresses the McCain tactic of sliming Barack Obama:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/opinion/08dowd.html

    She says such vile campaigning was started by Lee Atwater, and refined under Rove and his minions. She sees a parallel between Poppy Bush’s campaign in 1988 and McCain’s today:

    Atwater gleefully tried to paint Willie Horton as Dukakis’s running mate. With a black man running, it’s even easier for Atwater’s disciple running McCain’s campaign to warn that white Americans should not open the door to the dangerous Other, or “That One” as McCain referred to Obama in Tuesday night’s debate. (A cross between “The One” and “That Woman.”)

    The Democrat [Dukakis] was a ’60s-style liberal who would raise taxes and take away guns. He was weak and would not protect the country militarily. He was a member of the elite “Harvard Yard’s boutique.” He had a foreign-sounding name and was not on — “the American side.” He was on the side of the Scary Black Man.

14. Grant in Texas
    October 8th, 2008 @ 3:00 pm

    Today is the first ever Gallup Daily Poll having Obama in double-digits….52-41.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/111040/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Over-McCain-Expands.aspx

    When will McCain concede?

    http://www.opednews.com/articles/McCain-Considering-Concedi-by-Joel-S-Hirschhorn-081007-294.html

15. Uncle Fester Lurks
    October 8th, 2008 @ 7:24 pm

    JFH…I’m hateful towards racist piles of shit, the republican party for getting this country into the mess we are in and all of the braindead sheople who supported them and stood with their heads up their asses while their own party has all but bankrupted our country and stretched our military dangerously due to the unneccesary war in Iraq. Got it?

16. Uncle Fester Lurks
    October 8th, 2008 @ 7:25 pm

    Oh and JFH I don’t need to be lectured by you about being hateful when your whole party is filled with nothing but hate.

17. Uncle Fester Lurks
    October 8th, 2008 @ 7:27 pm

    dangerously thin…

18. democommie
    October 8th, 2008 @ 9:24 pm

    The only thing I would wish for Lee Atwater is that he would have had a much more painful death. He reveled in his hate for those who opposed him, than sought their forgiveness when he was dying. Fuck him, fuck Karl Rove, fuck every piece of shit reptilican liar who helped get the idiotking in office. I spit on them and their associates, families and followers. They are beneath contempt.

19. Grant in Texas
    October 9th, 2008 @ 12:08 am

    Debate e-cards….funny:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/fun-with-e-cards-one-way_n_132980.html