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		<title>By: Prominent REPUBLICANS &#38; DEMOCRATS in Illinois have no problem with Bill Ayers or Barack Obama &#171; White Noise Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prominent REPUBLICANS &#38; DEMOCRATS in Illinois have no problem with Bill Ayers or Barack Obama &#171; White Noise Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Nowhere (and she doesn&#8217;t want you to know her &#8216;domestic terrorist connection&#8217; HERE and HERE, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grant in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain was in on the ground floor of PNAC:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project

The Palin&#039;s UNAmerican activities:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

McCain tied to ultra-right-wing DEATH Sqauds in Central America:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_IRAN_CONTRA?SITE=WHIZ&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Does Johnny Boy and PomPom Palin really want us to dig into their past and reveal REAL history, not their fantasy pasts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain was in on the ground floor of PNAC:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project</a></p>
<p>The Palin&#8217;s UNAmerican activities:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/</a></p>
<p>McCain tied to ultra-right-wing DEATH Sqauds in Central America:</p>
<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_IRAN_CONTRA?SITE=WHIZ&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MCCAIN_IRAN_CONTRA?SITE=WHIZ&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a></p>
<p>Does Johnny Boy and PomPom Palin really want us to dig into their past and reveal REAL history, not their fantasy pasts?</p>
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		<title>By: kayinmaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayinmaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain has another connection to a violent hate filled right winger:

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapman/2008/10/mccain-has-his.html]

Gordon Libby. Remember that asshole? Oh boy! Johnny&#039;s domestic terrorist list is getting longer by the day! And we&#039;re not even counting George Bush &amp; Dick Cheney who he wholeheartedly supports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain has another connection to a violent hate filled right winger:</p>
<p><a href="http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapman/2008/10/mccain-has-his.html" rel="nofollow">http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapman/2008/10/mccain-has-his.html</a></p>
<p>Gordon Libby. Remember that asshole? Oh boy! Johnny&#8217;s domestic terrorist list is getting longer by the day! And we&#8217;re not even counting George Bush &amp; Dick Cheney who he wholeheartedly supports.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Palin is proving herself to be a despicable person....who is she to be pointing the finger of blame at anyone.
Isn&#039;t she the one who has a pregnant unwed daughter..which she so proudly parades around....had a Pastor who believed in Witch craft and had the &quot;laying of hands on Sarah&quot;....is still under investigation in Alaska!!!
The fact of the matter is that this lady with the caustic mouth is only John McCain&#039;s mouthpiece....their campaign is going down the tubes and this is the only way they can get the base fired up.
We now know that they have no substance....scared to address the issues of the economy....so attack Barack Obama is all they know.
Tonight&#039;s debate will show who the REAL LEADER is.... one who can talk about all the issues and not avoid them....calm..intelligence..knowledgeable..and respectful.
Senator Obama will wipe the floor with McCain...the man has no crediblity...no sense of the issues and abslotuely no respect.....his honour went out the window a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Palin is proving herself to be a despicable person&#8230;.who is she to be pointing the finger of blame at anyone.<br />
Isn&#8217;t she the one who has a pregnant unwed daughter..which she so proudly parades around&#8230;.had a Pastor who believed in Witch craft and had the &#8220;laying of hands on Sarah&#8221;&#8230;.is still under investigation in Alaska!!!<br />
The fact of the matter is that this lady with the caustic mouth is only John McCain&#8217;s mouthpiece&#8230;.their campaign is going down the tubes and this is the only way they can get the base fired up.<br />
We now know that they have no substance&#8230;.scared to address the issues of the economy&#8230;.so attack Barack Obama is all they know.<br />
Tonight&#8217;s debate will show who the REAL LEADER is&#8230;. one who can talk about all the issues and not avoid them&#8230;.calm..intelligence..knowledgeable..and respectful.<br />
Senator Obama will wipe the floor with McCain&#8230;the man has no crediblity&#8230;no sense of the issues and abslotuely no respect&#8230;..his honour went out the window a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: clif</title>
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		<dc:creator>clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Did they teach Dutson his tactics, or did Dutson teach them?&lt;/i&gt;

  .....   actually little children playing in their diapers does seem to be sort of natural,

the difference is the reality based community grew out of that   .....   little lance and his mentally challenged ideological brothers and sisters seem stunted in that area of growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Did they teach Dutson his tactics, or did Dutson teach them?</i></p>
<p>  &#8230;..   actually little children playing in their diapers does seem to be sort of natural,</p>
<p>the difference is the reality based community grew out of that   &#8230;..   little lance and his mentally challenged ideological brothers and sisters seem stunted in that area of growth.</p>
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		<title>By: outsider222</title>
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		<dc:creator>outsider222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was upset by Obama&#039;s negativity. But these right wingers are such brazen LIARS that something has to be done.

LOL:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less â€œpals,â€ and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight.&lt;/em&gt;

Of course, nobody actually bothered to read said story.

Sounds just like the Lance Dutson situation. I guess right wing zombies are the same the world over.

Did they teach Dutson his tactics, or did Dutson teach them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was upset by Obama&#8217;s negativity. But these right wingers are such brazen LIARS that something has to be done.</p>
<p>LOL:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less â€œpals,â€ and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight.</em></p>
<p>Of course, nobody actually bothered to read said story.</p>
<p>Sounds just like the Lance Dutson situation. I guess right wing zombies are the same the world over.</p>
<p>Did they teach Dutson his tactics, or did Dutson teach them?</p>
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		<title>By: Grant in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that most of the William Ayers stories originated in the British press including Rupert Murdoch&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Sunday Times&lt;/i&gt; as late as this last weekend.  .

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html

Obama did served on the eight-person anti-poverty education group &lt;b&gt;Woods Fund Board&lt;/b&gt; along with Ayers between 1999 and 2002 and once accepted a $200 campaign donation from him when Obama was running for the Illinois legislature.  Both Obama and Ayers live in Hyde Park, the township on Chicago&#039;s southside which is home to the U. of Chicago.  BTW, Ayers was NEVER convicted of any crime!  Two Weathermen who were convicted however received pardons from President Clinton in 2001, yet Hillary brought up Ayers FIRST in one of her &quot;kitchen sink&quot; tirades.

&lt;i&gt;Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia (English Professor U. of Illinois-Chicago), and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and &quot;passion for social justice.&quot;

&quot;This whole connection is a stretch,&quot; Harrington told me. &quot;Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that most of the William Ayers stories originated in the British press including Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s <i>Sunday Times</i> as late as this last weekend.  .</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html</a></p>
<p>Obama did served on the eight-person anti-poverty education group <b>Woods Fund Board</b> along with Ayers between 1999 and 2002 and once accepted a $200 campaign donation from him when Obama was running for the Illinois legislature.  Both Obama and Ayers live in Hyde Park, the township on Chicago&#8217;s southside which is home to the U. of Chicago.  BTW, Ayers was NEVER convicted of any crime!  Two Weathermen who were convicted however received pardons from President Clinton in 2001, yet Hillary brought up Ayers FIRST in one of her &#8220;kitchen sink&#8221; tirades.</p>
<p><i>Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia (English Professor U. of Illinois-Chicago), and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and &#8220;passion for social justice.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This whole connection is a stretch,&#8221; Harrington told me. &#8220;Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: kayinmaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayinmaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up on the subject, Grant. Thanks for the links! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post up on the subject, Grant. Thanks for the links! <img src='http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grant in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross Douthat at &lt;i&gt;The Atlantic&lt;/i&gt; believes the McCain-Palin campaign are appealing to latent racism among the nation&#039;s working-class whites, also believes that Ayers and Rev. Wright are legitimate topics to be discussed.  (As if Hillary didn&#039;t focus on them enough?)

&lt;i&gt;The Ayers connection is completely fair game for the McCain campaign, as is the Jeremiah Wright connection: Both are windows into the political world Barack Obama moved in, and the &quot;no enemies to the left&quot; caution with which he navigated Chicago politics. I tend to think that both connections tell you a little more about Obama&#039;s tendency to be accommodating, and to tack with the prevailing political winds which ever way they blow, than they do about his own innermost convictions - I think he&#039;s more of a &quot;go along, get along&quot; guy than a crypto-socialist - but reasonable people can disagree on this point, and either way the connections are perfectly appropriate material for talking points, speeches and campaign ads. (And yes, by the same token, there&#039;s nothing unfair or dirty about the Obama campaign raising some of &lt;b&gt;McCain&#039;s dubious past associations either&lt;/b&gt;.)&lt;/i&gt;


http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/from_willie_horton_to_william.php

I have heard some criticism from talking heads however for Obama fighting back with the &lt;b&gt;Keating Five scandal&lt;/b&gt; showing he will throw mud too.  Some are concerned that Obama is being drawn into an ugly fight that will belittle his earlier pronouncements that he will lead a different kind of campaign...take the high road (but didn&#039;t McCain PROMISE a clean campaign earlier?....before he started losing?).  We have the history of Dukakis and Kerry NOT fighting back, ignoring blatant charges thinking they would just go away and both ended up losing in the end, and Kerry was ahead in the polls almost up to election day (also sandbagged by a &quot;last minute Bin Laden tape&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Douthat at <i>The Atlantic</i> believes the McCain-Palin campaign are appealing to latent racism among the nation&#8217;s working-class whites, also believes that Ayers and Rev. Wright are legitimate topics to be discussed.  (As if Hillary didn&#8217;t focus on them enough?)</p>
<p><i>The Ayers connection is completely fair game for the McCain campaign, as is the Jeremiah Wright connection: Both are windows into the political world Barack Obama moved in, and the &#8220;no enemies to the left&#8221; caution with which he navigated Chicago politics. I tend to think that both connections tell you a little more about Obama&#8217;s tendency to be accommodating, and to tack with the prevailing political winds which ever way they blow, than they do about his own innermost convictions &#8211; I think he&#8217;s more of a &#8220;go along, get along&#8221; guy than a crypto-socialist &#8211; but reasonable people can disagree on this point, and either way the connections are perfectly appropriate material for talking points, speeches and campaign ads. (And yes, by the same token, there&#8217;s nothing unfair or dirty about the Obama campaign raising some of <b>McCain&#8217;s dubious past associations either</b>.)</i></p>
<p><a href="http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/from_willie_horton_to_william.php" rel="nofollow">http://rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/from_willie_horton_to_william.php</a></p>
<p>I have heard some criticism from talking heads however for Obama fighting back with the <b>Keating Five scandal</b> showing he will throw mud too.  Some are concerned that Obama is being drawn into an ugly fight that will belittle his earlier pronouncements that he will lead a different kind of campaign&#8230;take the high road (but didn&#8217;t McCain PROMISE a clean campaign earlier?&#8230;.before he started losing?).  We have the history of Dukakis and Kerry NOT fighting back, ignoring blatant charges thinking they would just go away and both ended up losing in the end, and Kerry was ahead in the polls almost up to election day (also sandbagged by a &#8220;last minute Bin Laden tape&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Grant in Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the response coming from Obama spokesman, Hari Sevugan:

&lt;i&gt;Governor Palin&#039;s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign&#039;s statement that they would be launching Swift boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation&#039;s economic ills. In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less &quot;pals,&quot; and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight. What&#039;s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.&lt;/i&gt;

The only problem with the above is that Palin&#039;s and McCain&#039;s riotous rhetoric has been played over-and-over on cable and networks news, essentially giving them FREE commercials.  Obama&#039;s response is only in some newspapers, probably at the bottom of page 19.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the response coming from Obama spokesman, Hari Sevugan:</p>
<p><i>Governor Palin&#8217;s comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign&#8217;s statement that they would be launching Swift boat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation&#8217;s economic ills. In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less &#8220;pals,&#8221; and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight. What&#8217;s clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy.</i></p>
<p>The only problem with the above is that Palin&#8217;s and McCain&#8217;s riotous rhetoric has been played over-and-over on cable and networks news, essentially giving them FREE commercials.  Obama&#8217;s response is only in some newspapers, probably at the bottom of page 19.</p>
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