15 Responses to “John McCain can’t even remember his POW experience”

1. clif
   July 10th, 2008 @ 10:38 pm

   S-e-n-i-l-i-t-y;

   St Johnny of the senility.

   It really really isn’t his fault, he is just going like Reagan did just about as fast.

2. goodtimepolitics
   July 11th, 2008 @ 1:33 am

   Well Obama does not have much to say as he can not remember where he stands on the issues, he has flip flopped on all of the issues! The far left is getting upset!
   http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/07/05/obama-puzzled/

3. grantinhouston
   July 11th, 2008 @ 4:17 am

   Obama will never catch up with McTeleprompter when it comes to changing positions. Johnny flip-flops every time he opens his mouth. Also, the one with the remembering problem is McCain who can’t even remember how he has voted in the past on various bills. A Vietnam Vet tripped him up on Wednesday because McCain couldn’t remember voting against veteran benefits, then he falsely remembered he was the one who brought about the new GI Bill of Rights and NOT Sen. Jim Webb which means he is either a BIG LIAR or he really is becoming demented in his old age.

   Then today he couldn’t remember that he had voted consistently against requiring insurance companies to pay for birth control pills BUT at the same time allowing FOR men having their insurance pay for their erectile dysfunction drugs (Viagra, Cialis). So men can screw women with their 24-hour hard-ons, but women have to pay to prevent pregnancy even when they don’t have the money to do so…what a joke! Except it isn’t a joke for poor women. (See Kay’s thread below and watch Johnny try to remember).

4. steph
   July 11th, 2008 @ 6:52 am

   He also has consistency issue with his claim that he was tortured because a few days after being captured, when he was lying in bed in Vietnamese hospital, drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes, giving an interview (military code of conduct?) to a French reporter, after having just had life saving surgery – he was very clear he hadn’t been tortured. So when exactly was he tortured, who witnessed it, and where’s the medical evidence for it?

   The MSM ran stories questioning Kerry’s military service but when it comes to McCain, they won’t question his torture claims despite the complete lack of evidence and repeated inconsistencies in his story. Why should this claim be beyond question? Surely it’s news worthy if McCain has lied about being tortured for all these years?

5. kayinmaine
   July 11th, 2008 @ 7:00 am

   Well I suppose when you’ve been told that you are going to win in November (Fox News reporter mistakenly revealed that one day recently), it really doesn’t matter what you remember or what you do.

   Spit.

   Johnny McTeleprompter is the King of the Flip Flop and will enter the White House mentally where Reagan left off.

   Good gawd save us now from the Evilness!!!!!

6. grantinhouston
   July 11th, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

   McCain, who likes using old film of his glorious and heroic Vietnam days in his ads now, got his injuries not only from his bomber crashing into a lake but probably more injuries from the beating he suffered at the hands of the townspeople coming out from the town he was bombing. He was drowning in the lake due to being wrapped up in his parachute until a Vietnamese man rescued him.

7. Timotheus
   July 11th, 2008 @ 3:42 pm

   Kay,

   Yea, those are the kind of lies that get us into wars, right? Nice pick up on the right wing lie machine. John McCaniac was trying to dupe you, but you got him. Nailed him. Keep up the good work with your political electron microscope…maybe you’ll get another gem soon.

   Barack thinks people with asthma need breathalizers….did you hear that one? Bah ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! What a dope.

   Timotheus

8. Timotheus
   July 11th, 2008 @ 4:14 pm

   Steph,

   “So when exactly was he tortured, who witnessed it, and where’s the medical evidence for it?”

   McCain was not tortured…it was just Vietnamese physical therapy…you know, a fist massage on his face…traction by way of behind the back arm suspension. If he was in Gauntanamo, resting comfortably…that would be torture.

   Timotheus

9. clif
   July 11th, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

   Hey ‘timmy’ try the GROWING McSame flip flopper list;

   http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html

   The past couple of weeks have been especially difficult when it comes to McCain flip-flops.

   * McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

   * McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

   * McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

   * McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

   Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet….

   * McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

   * McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

   * He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

   * McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

   And these come after these other reversals from April and May:

   * McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

   * McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

   * McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

   * McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

   * McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

   * He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

   * McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

   * He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

   * McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

   And these are the flip-flops I’ve noticed earlier:

   * McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”

   * McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

   * McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.

   * In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

   * McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

   * McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

   * McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

   * McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

   * McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

   * McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

   * McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

   * McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.

   * In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

   * McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

   * McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.

   * On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

   * In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

   * McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

   * McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”

   * McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

   * McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

   * McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.

   * McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

   * On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

   * In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

   * McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

   * McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

   * McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

   * McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

   * McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

   * McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

   Confronted with the inconsistencies in McCain’s record in March, the senator’s aides told the New York Times that the senator “has evolved rather than switched positions in his 25-year career.” That’s a perfectly sensible spin — when a politician holds one position, and then, for apparently political reasons, decides to embrace the polar opposite position, it’s only natural for his or her aides to say the politician’s position has “evolved.”

   But in McCain’s case, the spin is wholly unfulfilling. First, McCain sells himself as a pol who never sways with the wind, and whose willingness to be consistent in the face of pressure is proof of his character. Second, Republicans have spent the last four years or so making policy reversals the single most serious political crime in presidential politics. The dreaded “flip-flop” is, according to the GOP, the latest cardinal sin for someone seeking national office.

   It seems ‘timmy’ your senile old foole makes John Kerry seem like a straight talker even by right wing rules, don’t it boy?

10. grantinhouston
    July 11th, 2008 @ 7:35 pm

    McCain loves the Bush tax cuts for the rich folks like the McCains. Since Johnny votes with Bush 95% of the time, look for more of the same “welfare” for the rich. The Center for American Progress Action Fund released a new report by Michael Ettlinger estimating that under the Bush/McCain’s tax plan, he and his wife, Cindy, would save $373,429. That’s nearly $400,000 — per year. (Under Barack Obama’s plan, the McCains would save less than $6,000. BTW, the Obamas would save nearly $50,000 under McCain’s plan, and slightly more than $6,000 under Obama’s plan own plan.)

    I see our TROLL Timotheus has picked up on the YouTube video that’s all over the reich-wing websites where Obama said “breathalyzer” (for use on drunk drivers) for “inhaler”! First of all, he immediately realized he had used the wrong word and corrected himself then mispronounced “inhaler” as “inhalator”. He misspoke while in the whirlwind of the primary where he hit a half dozen cities a day and spoke sometimes day and night. He was clearly tired in the video, not stoned or drunk as I have read on some reich-wing blog comments. His grasp of thought and language is far superior to the demented McCain.

    http://election.newsmax.com/obama_inhalator.html

    Gee, what a earth changing mistake, almost as bad as Bush bombing Iraq back to the stone age destroying a nation, killing tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of innocents. I bet any of the 4.7 million homeless refugees, many of them Iraqi Christians now forced to live in Syria and Jordan, would love to have an “inhalator!”

    The reason we don’t know what happened to McCain while he was a POW is that he as a Senator pushed to have a statute enacted in 1991 to have all the Pentagon debriefings of the prisoners who returned from Vietnam classified and closed to the public. He says this is to protect the privacy of former POWs but it also gives him a reason for not making public his own debriefings.

    http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm

    The reich-wing applauded when Johnny released a whole NINETEEN pages of his Navy records this spring, mostly about his medals and awards! Of course the MSM reported “McCain releases military records” not going ahead and saying that much is still a top secret. WooHoo!!! My Petty Officer partner has a lot more than 19 pages of records! What hasn’t been released?

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/2/112455/4517/41/545081

    Sen. Kerry was slimed by the right until he released ALL of his. Even George W. Bush released what few records he had that had not been shredded or burned!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-klein/mccains-secret-questionab_b_107409.html

11. kayinmaine
    July 11th, 2008 @ 7:43 pm

    Grant, the trolls correcting or making a big deal out of Barack using the wrong word is no different than them going after us for doing the same. They have to focus in on these boo-boos because they have nothing to defend George Bush, Dick Cheney, Johnny McTeleprompter on, so they make these corrections to make themselves feel better about themselves and their party.

    It’s hysterical! Nice to know the right wing is still melting down in front of our eyes.

    Grant, Johnny McCrazy’s military records will indicate he’s batshit crazy. Johnny did admit to 60 Minutes back in the 1990’s that he was a war criminal because he killed innocent people. Phew! I’m glad at least one right winger is admitting to that fact. The whole party is the Party of War Criminals.

12. grantinhouston
    July 11th, 2008 @ 9:04 pm

    In his autobiography, McCain said he gave the names of the Green Bay Packers to his North Vietnamese jailers to throw them off when they asked him to name the names of other aviators from his squadron who were involved in bombing missions. Now to pander to Western Pennsylvania voters, he says he named the players of the Pittsburgh Steelers to his captors! It would make sense to know Green Bay players in the 1960’s as they were WINNERS (Super Bowls in both 1967 and 1968), but Pittsburgh was terrible in the 1960’s. Keith Olberman said even folks in Pittsburgh would have difficulty naming the roster of the Steelers then!

    What next? McCain landing in Bosnia under sniper fire?

13. steph
    July 12th, 2008 @ 6:53 am

    @ grant

    Neither version is true. McCain is an unfaithful, deceitful, petulant, ill-tempered coward. Tran Trong Duyet in charge of Hoa Lo prison (Hanoi Hilton):

    “I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners.”

    “He lies to American voters in order to get their support for his presidential election.”

    The conditions were harsh at Hoa Lo and POWs were punished with solitary confinement and were restrained with bindings but the allegations of systematic torture and regular beatings is completely without proof. No independent international body or any of the independent journalists visiting Hoa Lo has ever found evidence of that. There is considerable evidence of systematic torture in Guantanamo, including the amputation of limbs.

    All the American accounts of torture from Hoa Lo are so obviously fictional and they fit the American propaganda of the time – America was claiming that the POWs were only giving televised confessions because they were being tortured. Although not McCain, on the fifth day of capture he told French TV reporter Francois Chalais, in an interview:

    “I was carrying out a bombing mission, my twenty-third raid over Hanoi. It was then that I was hit. I wanted to eject but while doing so I broke both arms and my right thigh. Unconscious, I fell in a lake. Some Vietnamese jumped in the water and pulled me out. Later I learned there must have been about 12 of them. They immediately took me to a hospital, in condition two inches away from death. A doctor operated on my thigh. Others at the same time dealt with my arms.”

14. steph
    July 12th, 2008 @ 7:04 am

    @ Timotheus

    Unlike McCain for inmates in Guantanamo can produce concrete evidence of the torture they suffered. You would have thought McCain would be grateful for being rescued from a lake and given lifesaving surgery. But McCain can’t do gratitude. They should of let him drown.

15. Timotheus
    July 14th, 2008 @ 5:08 pm

    Clif,

    “It seems ‘timmy’ your senile old foole makes John Kerry seem like a straight talker even by right wing rules, don’t it boy?”

    Hmmm. Clif(f)…..jump off one.

    Timotheus