Oh wow, Barack Obama was right…the right wingers do turn to guns for comfort
Posted on | June 27, 2008 | 6 Comments
Before I take the weekend off from blogging (it’s Cyndie’s 40th B-day! We’re celebrating it with a slumber party at my house!), I thought it would be a good chance for everyone to discuss the US Supreme Court’s recent decisions this week.
First off, I find it interesting that the ban on guns in DC and the death penalty for child rapists is coming out this week (it was probably scheduled but the timing is weird), because just recently the point was made on the news (either CNN or MSNBC….can’t remember which) that the republican party has never made the US Supreme Court as an issue when one of their own is running for the presidency. That could be true. The republicans always seem to run on the abortion laws, guns, gays, and gawd. Yep. They always turn to religion and guns when they want to comfort themselves and their base, so I find it interesting that these two very important cases came out this week. Maybe to help Johnny McTeleprompter? Could be, but since he admitted recently that he just stopped beating his wife 2 weeks ago, well then, I don’t think he’ll even care about the rulings this week at all!
The ban on guns in Washington, DC…
I can see why this 32 year old ban was overturned. The 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to bear arms (though they can’t form militias) in this country and no town/city, county, or state as a whole can ban any individual from owning a gun (only a few exceptions exist). Of course, they can regulate guns by taking the right to carry one in public away or they can enforce background checks (to refuse to sell guns to the mentally ill, felons etc.) before allowing an individual to buy one. To me these regulations make perfect sense, but to a zealous gun dealer (as this Freeport, Maine gun dealer proves), some don’t really give a flying rat’s ass what the laws are of this country or what gun regulation is all about. It’s guys like this who are making our streets more dangerous. As the right wingers like to point out all the time: GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. Well remind the wacko gun dealers of that please!
Another thought about the US Supreme Courts decision to lift this 32 year old ban: Why now? Is it because Barack Obama is going to be the next president of the United States? Again, the timing of this decision is just odd to me. Blue Texan of FireDogLake also questions the timing of these Court decisions. Yep, the wingers are going to use the Court now to freak out the base, when really, a good majority of Americans understand the current wingnut Court is very, very dangerous and with Johnny McTeleprompter at the helm of this country, it will get even worse!
The ban on the death penalty to be used in child rape cases…
Rape is a horrific, vile, violent crime and I don’t care if it’s done to a child, a teenager, an adult, or against one of the prisoners at GITMO, Abu Graib, or in a secret CIA prison around the world. Rape is a punishable crime, The End. But is the death penalty warranted in ONLY the rape of a child? Let’s think about this for a minute…..as the Associated Press article points out, those on Death Row in this country are there because they KILLED someone. Their crime was horrific enough to warrant the death penalty and I’m sure every single case…the death penalty is the correct decision for these men & women (that is…if they are truly guilty, but that’s another post!). But….there has never been a rapist on Death Row WITHOUT the death of the victim. I have to say, I agree with the Court’s decision on this. As brutal as the crime of rape is, I think life in prison without the possibility of parole is the best decision, especially for those rapists who will most likely rape again if given the chance.
I’m not sure if you saw the video of a Massachusetts state rep giving his thoughts on mandatory minimum sentences for crimes against children, but when I first saw this Democrat spewing “hate”, I was livid. I’ve settled down a bit now.
What are your thoughts on what he’s saying? Rather than letting the jury decide on the punishment for the defendant if found guilty of the crime against a child, a mandatory sentence of 10-15 years minimum would be imposed no matter what. Our emotional brains will always react, “Good! Let the bastards rot in hell for that long!”, but from what I’m understanding is Rep. Fagan is saying he does not LIKE the idea of going after a child hard on the stand who has gone through a most unbelievable horrific crime just so he can defend his client with. He has a point, but does he really?
Of course, I can see a mandatory minimum sentence for repeat sex offenders. This kind of criminal should be facing at least 15 years in prison because of his or her pathological history and should not have been let out the first time. Maybe the “jury of his peers” is the problem here? Could be.
But…
If you think about it, allowing the death penalty for the rape of a child could force the rapists in the future to kill their victims so the one and only witness to the crime is silenced. Yes, I know, the death penalty in this country has not deterred crime and doesn’t work. Personally, I’m against the death penalty, but like Barack Obama pointed out…it is warranted in some cases. As a society, sometimes the most egregious of crimes should end with the death of the criminal! That said, I don’t agree with Barack that ALL crimes against children warrants the death penalty. The after effects of rape and sexual assault can be dealt with in time (believe me…as a woman I am not making light of rape! I’m getting light headed just writing this post!), but I don’t believe the death penalty is the answer to it. And besides, how many child rapists/murderers last a long time in prison? They tend to get their justice if you know what I mean (think Jeffrey Dahmer and Catholic Priest John Geoghan).
What are your thoughts on these two US Supreme Court rulings?
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6 Responses to “Oh wow, Barack Obama was right…the right wingers do turn to guns for comfort”









June 27th, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
Hey I’m happy with the supreme courts ruling on guns in DC. When the second American revolution begins the angry citizens of DC will reach the Whitehouse first so at least they will be decently armed until the rest of us get there with our pitchforks, torches and rope.
June 27th, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
I agree with your positions, Kay. I am a former gun owner who had my father’s S&W .38 stolen in a burglary. Would have also lost my grandfather’s 1928 Remington .12 gauge shotgun if it hadn’t been loaned out to a friend for hunting. I have since given that heirloom gun to a nephew. I feel as safe without guns being around me as with them. I never had any interest in joining the NRA as it is more political than anything else.
There were 55 Senators who signed the amicus “friend-of-the-court” brief supporting the Supreme’s gun decision. There were also 250 in the House of Representatives who signed the brief. So it did have some bi-partisan support.
http://www.senate.gov/~hutchison/pr062608a.html
The thing I fear is if “Pandora’s Box” might not have been opened by this decision that will encourage more lawsuits by radical gun enthusiasts. I do believe in responsible gun legislation and getting illegal guns off the streets. And what happened to the right’s objection to the BIG federal arm coming down on local and state’s rights? Also, the District of Columbia doesn’t even have representation!! Oh forgot, the clamor over “state’s rights” was mostly about the feds coming down on lynchings, and Jim Crow laws!
June 27th, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
Uncle, that is a good point. And whose to say the wingers are a good shot anyways! LOL They just think they are.
Two hairdressers here in Maine were robbed yesterday in Standish. What’s not mentioned in the following article is the women went after him inside the salon. The robber shot at the cash register and missed! LOL One of the hairdressers then chased him outside. Both the women were not harmed.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/06/27/shot_fired_at_maine_salon_during_robbery_attempt/
June 27th, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
Grant, funny you should mention the “Pandora’s Box” of lawsuits. The NRA instantly started a couple of lawsuits after the SCOTUS’ decision…
They’re suing in Chicago…
http://www.wthitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8567923
They’re suing in San Francisco…
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2738639420080627
June 27th, 2008 @ 8:58 pm
All great points WNI, but since I agree with your points, i.e. the rulings on Kennedy vs. LA, 2nd amendment ruling, I sheepishly opt out of offering more than these few words.
However, I had been following the Exxon ruling, more along the lines; what are the trends of this court? Pretty much, I feel this ruling serves as a welcome wagon for companies to fight all the way to SCOTUS to fight punitive damages awarded by the lower courts. Of course, it really means it will unfairly and in a very pro corp. way, influence and guide punitive damages awarded by the lower courts. It’s saying “Go ahead and build a defective product that kills and maims thousands, we’ll protect your interests by the establishment of new precedents.”
Who’s Cindy? Cindy McCain ?
Buwahahaha! Uh-Oh, liberal seizure kicking in again!
June 27th, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
Funny how the Supremes seemed to ignore the “militia” part of the 2nd amendment. Handguns didn’t exist when our Constitution was being written. Samuel Colt got the first patent for revolver in 1836. Smith & Wesson produced their first handguns in the mid 1850’s.
However, Justice Scalia wrote that Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms and because “throughout much of our history, the American people have considered the handgun to be the quintessential self-defense weapon…a complete prohibition of their use is invalid.” I guess our history started in the mid-19th century according to Scalia and not in the 17th century when the massive migrations began to establish our 13 colonies?
Justice Breyer states, “The decision will encourage legal challenges to gun regulation throughout the Nation…. [Did] the Framers [intend] to guarantee a right to possess a loaded gun near swimming pools, parks, and playgrounds? That they would not have cared about the children who might pick up a loaded gun on their parents’ bedside table?”