And vice versa.
Okay, it’s bad enough that the Pentagon has been ordered to draw up plans to strike/attack Iran:
Despite the Bush administration’s insistence it has no plans to go to war with Iran, a Pentagon panel has been created to plan a bombing attack that could be implemented within 24 hours of getting the go-ahead from President George W. Bush, The New Yorker magazine reported in its latest issue.
The special planning group was established within the office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in recent months, according to an unidentified former U.S. intelligence official cited in the article by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh in the March 4 issue.
The panel initially focused on destroying Iran’s nuclear facilities and on regime change but has more recently been directed to identify targets in Iran that may be involved in supplying or aiding militants in Iraq, according to an Air Force adviser and a Pentagon consultant, who were not identified.
The consultant and a former senior intelligence official both said that U.S. military and special-operations teams had crossed the border from Iraq into Iran in pursuit of Iranian operatives, according to the article.
But, when you read that Israel is providing the US with intelligence about Iran that is still being debated whether it’s factual or not, makes my blood boil even further:
The article, citing unnamed current and former U.S. officials, also said the Bush administration received intelligence from Israel that Iran had developed an intercontinental missile capable of delivering several small warheads that could reach Europe. It added the validity of that intelligence was still being debated.
As Maya Angelou poignantly pointed out at Coretta Scott King’s funeral as she turned around to Bush who was sitting behind her, “I want to see some peace!”. I do too and I don’t like the fact that the Bush Regime and Israel are continuing to fan the flames of chaos, lies, deceits, wars, illegal occupations/attacks/invasions, and propaganda to get what they want that has nothing to do in making either country secure!
Even when Israel reaches out to the Syrians for some peace, Condi Rice won’t hear of it. SHE HATES PEACE TOO.
It’s sickening to me.
they all love war.
more money, more power, more oil.
I’m all for ‘piece’ too, chris. If we were after oil; we sure didn’t get any. Kofi Annan did better than Bush. BTW, there is a huge new oil discovery in Iraq which is in the Sunni sector. We live in interesting times. I don’t think Syria has a single major oilfield; so we would just be going in to unearth the Iraqi WMD buried there by the Russians. You know, buried by Vlad “look into my eyes” Putin….
Exxon, BP, and the rest of the Oil Maggots didn’t get one ounce of the oil in Iraq through the UN? Huh bushboy? Idiot you are!
Note to readers: bushboy has the word “petro” in his email address.
It isn’t enough that we get this evil regime out of office. Until the stranglehold of Israel and it’s propadanda arm AIPAC on our government and our media is broken, and until the US stops blocking actions of the UN to end Israel’s crimes against humanity in the Palestinian Territories and elsewhere, catastrophies in the Mideast will continue.
sickening!
Smoke, is Haloscan down over at Ablog? I can’t stand Haloscan. It seems to be down more than up nowadays. Tired of it.
The PNAC neocon credo is purely Orwellian in scope and depth. I’m certain this is intentional. Madam Supertanker(nod to Billmon, wherever he is) is a true-blue PNAZI, creating perpetual enemies for perpetual war.
This is some scary shit. And it’s real.
kayinmaine Says: February 25th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Exxon, BP, and the rest of the Oil Maggots didn’t get one ounce of the oil in Iraq through the UN? Huh bushboy? Idiot you are!
As far as I know, KIM, it’s the French and Germans. But, you may be right; I’ll check it out. But, one things for sure, Bush didn’t get any of it. (unless, of course his “blind” trust was invested in the German and French companies…..) Hmmmm, Paraguay is looking better and better…….
Former Deputy Secretary of State Donald(?)Feith is a known neocon with well established ties to the Likud party in Israel.
In fact, he has a branch law office in Tel Aviv.
But if one makes a point of this, or any AIPAC tie to the US gov’t, you are “anti-semitic”.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Arabs also Semites?
it seems to be working, Kay
I don’t have any problems with Haloscan. It always says “you’re banned motherfucker; your comments will not be tolerated”
I see it’s Anti-Semitic Day at Kays! Oops, that’s EVERYday at Kays, isn’t it?
Nice double-chin on your avatar, Kay. Is your ass a wide one, too? I’ll bet it is!
David Drake Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
I see it’s Anti-Semitic Day at Kays! Oops, that’s EVERYday at Kays, isn’t it?
Nice double-chin on your avatar, Kay. Is your ass a wide one, too? I’ll bet it is!
God’s own warrior are you?
Typical 30%er. Probably can’t wait to be a guard at Camp Halliburton.
Wow David, calling names again? Funny how you tell us that we do that but that’s the first thing you do every time you visit!
Actually, that’s a weird angle shot of me. I’ll post a better shot of me right now on the homepage. Pllllllbbbbbbbbtttttttttttt.
oh I never call names “again”. But I figuered since when I’ve tried to debate some of the commenters one a legitimate basis, they fail miserably and resort to name-calling. I thought, more or less, that by doing so I was speaking “the Liberal language”.
I’m s – u – r – e it’s the angle and/or the camera that puts a double chin on you and not the cheesecake and Dove chocolates.
Actually, I’ll post it here:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/kayxmas.jpg
Soooooo – dad2059, why not just admit you’re a jew-hater? All the other libs on this post do.
Where have you debated David? You’ve not posted any links or made any argument that has changed our minds.
You will not change our minds just like we won’t yours. Get it?
David, why do you love the Jews and Israel?
So David, notice my ‘double chin’ in the photo I posted a few comments up? Nope! Idiot.
I just got back from the picture, give me a moment. Was it take around 1965? Cuz from the looks of that pic the double chin was just beginning to grow.
In December 2006. I’m 38 too. Ha ha. I’m in the prime of my life and not bad for a woman approaching 40!!!
I bet you’re homely as hell. Most neocons are.
Kay #20 – oh please Kay – I asked Mirth on the What Famous Leader Are You post on HIS post about Jet Blue – asking him is there anything Govt shouldn’t regulate or over-regulate because at his blog he wrote “there’s no regulations how long a plane can sit on the tarmack.” I’d have asked him on his site but – as you criticize Don Long for having Comment Moderation on – one has to SIGN Up to comment at Mirth’s site; a nice way to avoid counter arguments or debates. Go read his reponse, he resorted to name calling.
On your Lieberman post Mirth said “Democrats are at odds with Lieberman on more than one issue.” I asked him to name them. So far, no answer.
C’mon Kay – you and virtually all the other Libs that comments here as well as elsewhere on Liberal blogs aren’t interested in an open debate. You’re only interested in perpetuating Liberalism and what it is you “believe” – whether facts prove it wrong.
#25 correction:
“I asked Mirth on…[YOUR POST]…..of ‘What Famous Leader…..” etc etc
I would have put you in your late 40’s. Women never lie about their age, right?
Dad2059, who is Madam Supertanker?
Also, we know we aren’t anti-semitic. I don’t let that old AIPAC tactic intimidate me. Never again.
I take it I’m not bad looking and that’s why you refuse to admit you’re wrong and instead decide to bring up an old conversation.
There is no legislation about how a plane can sit on the tarmac for hours. It comes from the airlines and they are the ones that need to legislated to treat Americans better. But, you hate Americans, huh David? You don’t care if Americans are sitting in their own feces for 11 hours on the tarmac. You love that!!!
I have your IP address David and your email address because you’re commenting on my site. When you sign up on a website, it’s the same thing. They have the exact same info as I do. Ha ha.
I look like I’m in my late 40’s? Wow! I must really be attractive and that’s why you continue to insult me! LOL I constantly get mistaken for being in my 20’s. Ha ha.
You’re homely, huh David? Poor miserable creature you are…
David loves the idea of shit piling up in a toilet and for Americans to breathe in the aroma of it all for hours on end!
#27 – hey genius – have you gone to google and typed in “mama” and “mamma” yet? You are so wrong on the other post, where you said “you meant mama’s”. WRONG! Damn you’re Dense.As.Wood.
Of course you’re anti-Semitic. Why would you be offended by a comment directed to someone else, and feel the need to have to step in?
David, what do you love about the Jews and Israel? Tell us what makes you love them so much you would lay down and die for them.
dd: “No one will debate me! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.”
Say something interesting and informative and maybe someone will.
But not me.
kayinmaine Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Where have you debated David?
—– because you asked me.
Mirth is a genius! Thanks for pointing that out David. See? You can stick around longer with comments like that.
#33 – that’s because you’re afraid to debate.
Your “beliefs” will be challenged and disarmed with facts.
I asked you to come to my blog and debate us? Bah hahahahaha…not only are you homely but you’re stupid and narcissist, David. You are soooooooooo pathetic.
David, how come you’re not answering my questions to you? I thought you wanted to debate?
Mr Drake,
You must be a lonely person. I pity you even though you are acting like a punk.
David loves it when Israel makes up information on other countries so America will fight it’s battles for them! Ha, David? You love Israel for that.
#97 mirth Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
“Yes dd, I’m hiding behind my “mamma’s” (you probably mean “mama’s”) apron. How astute of you!
Y’know, you may be the most ignorant little fascist on the threads. The word “dork” comes to mind.”
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Go ahead genius — tell us what the google results said. Huh?
David, remember……..I HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND IP ADDRESS! Woohoo! You didn’t even sign up here either. Isn’t that amazing?
Kay – # 38 — which question?
Wow, am I supposed to be scared or intimidated that you have my email or ip?
Why won’t you sign up over at Equal Time Radio if you’re not scared that I have your IP and email address? You made a big deal of it earlier and you know that I have the same info they would have if you signed up.
Read my comments from now on. I’ve asked you lots of questions above. Go through them and answer them for me.
The best one:
What do you love about the Jews and Israel?
David,
Why do you come to liberal blogs? To enforce your beliefs on us?
I didn’t make a big deal out of ETR. I wasn’t going to take time then to sign up.
“What do you love about the Jews and Israel?”
I’ll ask you: Why do you hate them and their country, Kay?
#45: ha! I foolishly think that once in a while there’s an intelligent Lib out there who’s willing to actually talk about issues instead of name calling. But that virtually never happens.
Why are you a Liberal, Kay? Do you beleive that it’s the gov’ts job to do things for people that they can do for themselves?
No David, you answer why you love the Jews and Israel! You come here and say that we hate the Jews and Israel, so you have to defend your accusation by listing out all the things that are good, pure, and white about the Jews and Israel!
See how debate works David? That’s how it goes.
Israel is an ally. Now, I realize that Libs don’t know the real meaning of what an ally is, you know – someone you can count on.
If the mantra coming from the Left is to “talk to our enemies” – why would you be unwilling to discuss issues with a commenter who disagrees with what you write? What are you afraid of? Finding out that maybe your “facts” are wrong?
I believe the government should be there for it’s people, especially in a democracy where the people elect their government and it’s their money who is paying the employees of the government!
That’s what I believe.
In a dictatorship, the guys at the top live high off the hog while the other 95% starve. Is that what you like David? A government that hates it’s people and is only for itself?
How is Israel our alley? Cause we pay them $2 billion dollars a year and they supply us with nothing in return?
#48: well I’ll turn your own words on you:
“Read my comments from now on.”
Why so viciously diss the jews, if you’re all not jew haters?
David, what do neocons stand for?
And you beleive that under Bush we are a dictatorship?
“neocon” is the liberal code word for jews.
How am I dissing the Jews? THEY’RE PROVIDING DOCUMENTS TO THE USA THAT CANNOT BE VERIFIED AND IS BEING DEBATED RIGHT NOW ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE LEGITIMATE.
You trust people that do things like that? Bush took our country into Iraq on the same kind of fraudulent/false documents! I hate lying, deceiving, distorting warmongers!
I’m against war and I don’t care who is doing the killing or who started it. Torturing, raping, and killing only begets more violence.
You love that though don’t you David!
Israel is a nation. Jews are a people. Disapproving of a nation and how it goes about it’s business is not the same as hating a people.
Too complicated for you?
What do neocons stand for David? Answer this question please.
You know, you – you Kay specifically – and others here commenting, don’t even take the time to find out what someone actually beleives in – like you can paint someone a Neocon or Liberal by one or two issues. That’s absurd. As absurd as the Left painting Lieberman a Republican because he gets it on the war on terrorism.
Where I have stated I hate the Jews and the Israelis?
Third time asking:
WHAT DO NEOCONS STAND FOR DAVID?
I’m interested in knowing what makes you be a neocon and what it is that you stand for!
“You trust people that do things like that? Bush took our country into Iraq on the same kind of fraudulent/false documents! I hate lying, deceiving, distorting warmongers!”
– was anyone prior to Bush even being a candiate talking about Iraq, Hussein, and their developing a nuclear arsenal?
David Drake Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
“neocon” is the liberal code word for jews.
It’s hard to debate someone who is deliberately being stupid. That statement is too stupid to merit debating.
– was anyone prior to Bush even being a candiate talking about Iraq, Hussein, and their developing a nuclear arsenal?
No. Maybe it was because they weren’t?
Just a thought.
kay – I misread your post. I thought you asked what does Neocon stand for, not NeoCONS. MY ERROR.
I don’t know what NEOCONS stand for because I’m not one of them. If anyone had bothered to ask – I’m an Independent small “L” libertarian. I have gladly thrown my vote away on Third Parties that I knew had no chance of winning rather than vote FOR or AGAINST the Republican or Democrat.
I **fully admit** to leaning Right of Center on issues of defense, the military and that a smaller govt is a BETTER govt. On other issues I am at Center or Left of Center.
Oh, so you’re blaming Clinton for Bush and his Regime for ignoring 52 WARNINGS THAT AL-QAIDA WAS GOING TO ATTACK OUR COUNTRY BEFORE 9/11?
Pathetic. Clinton had our planes flying over Iraq and had inspectors on the ground. Bush told the planes to take a hike right after he anointed himself king in January 2001 and then he took the inspectors out of Iraq after only a couple of weeks of being there before Bush started bombing the shit out of the country. First thing Wolfowitz did? Disbanded the Iraqi Army! Of course he did and the country has been a freaking mess ever since!
$9 billion dollars was trucked in and handed out. They stole $9 billion from us but David loves that! As long as a sick child of a poor person is not using our system to eat, David has no problem with the White House stealing $9billion from us!
Corporate welfare makes David’s heart spew little hearts.
Traitor.
What do libertarians stand for?
#64: really? You mean Bill and Hillary, TEd Kennedy, Albright, Kerry and a crap load of other Dems weren’t using the same intelligence of what – at that time – was going on in IRaq?
You really do have your very own personal set of facts, don’t you #64.
Our government is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE right now. WE ARE $12 TRILLION IN DEBT. Bush has given himself permission 800 times to not have to go by the laws that he signs. Yes, he’s made America into a dictatorship. He slipped in an amendment at the end of last year IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT when America was sleeping that gives him the power to declare Martial Law for any reason he wants. All 50 Governors have petitioned this move because they don’t want their National Guard used AGAINST AMERICANS!
You’d love an American genocide, wouldn’t you David?
Isn’t Bush the ultimate person to be blamed? He wanted to go into Iraq in 1999 and 2000 when he was talking about Saddam while campaigning. You thought he wanted to go into Iraq because he loves the Iraqi people. LOL You were duped dumbass!
Please Kay – since you’re such a staunch holder of words to anyone (but yourself) – show me where I said I WASNT concerned that $9Billion was missing. Please show me where I wrote that.
David, why did Bush pay the Taliban $43 million dollars in May of 2001 and in the same month take America’s signature off the International Criminal Court? Huh David? Think he knew something was coming (9/11) and was preparing for it? It’s now known that he and his Cabinet were tired of the warnings that al-Qaida was going to attack us. They ignored the warnings David. This is Clinton’s fault? Clinton is Bush’s babysitter?
You didn’t say that. I was making a point to you by using examples of how Bush is an asshole and how he is a traitor to America.
Individual ownership, a live and let live philosphy, do no harm, oppose censorship, a general opposition to govt regulating one’s personal life — are a few libertarian ideals.
Why is it you neocons can’t understand the comments made by liberals? They’re very self-explanatory too. Are you all just undereducated wingnuts?
You really do have your very own personal set of facts, don’t you #64
I am not a number! I am a human being!
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
And in what set of facts was Iraq actually developing a nuclear program? The Israeli’s bombed Iraq’s attempt at one way back in the 80’s. The Bush claim of buying yellowcake from Africa has been thoroughly debunked.
Wow, you can’t be a libertarian and support Bush at the same time! Believe me, I have quite a few libertarians that I talk to online and they feel exactly the same way I do.
You’re a neocon then. Only the neocons love Bush which is the opposite of what even the conservatives believe in! We should call the Bush Regime “Oil Maggotarians” because that’s what they truly are.
Hi Dave! *waving*
Hi Kay!
*waving back*
the intelligence from Israel, the UK, and other allies under Clinton – about Iraq – was the same intelligence passed on the following admin.
To say I “would love an American genocide” is just sick, Kay. I couldn’t even in my wildest dreams think up something like that to accuse someone of (sorry to end that on a preposition).
No – I’m not blaming Clinton – what I’m saying was in response to comment 64 – that there were A SHITLOAD of DEMOCRATS who – well prior to Bush – thought the SAMET THING and SAID THE SAME thing abour Iraq.
Yes some Dems got it wrong but they had the good sense NOT to get us bogged down in Iraq. (Yes, I know some of those you mentioned voted for the resolution…based on Bush/Cheyney lies)
Iraq is a quagmire. A failure. Bush’s legacy…failure.
“Saddam’s goal is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed.”
Madeleine Albright
John Kerry:
“I think we ought to put the heat on Saddam Hussein. I’ve said that for a number of years, Bill. I criticized the Clinton administration for backing off of the inspections when Ambassador Butler was giving us strong evidence that we needed to continue. I think we need to put the pressure on no matter what the evidence is about September 11.” -December 11, 2001:on Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor”
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Are you saying these two Liberal icons didn’t say their words? Because they are recorded as having said them.
David, would you have been happy if the democrats banded together and didn’t vote for the resolution back then which would have made it so Bush couldn’t illegally invade Iraq? The resolution was for Afghanistan and there was verbage in there about using force AS A LAST RESORT on other country. The inspectors were on the ground for a couple of weeks (not enough time to look for the wmd that didn’t exist) before Bush pulled them out and started bombing.
None of the democrats were voting for a full fledged war, but the republicans were! They did no oversight all those years either. Now the democrats are! The republicans never wanted to debate Iraq or put their votes on paper after the illegal occupation started. The democrats are now forcing them to do it!
I said no such thing….Kerry’s a liberal icon? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
“Putting the heat” on Saddam means to kill 600,000 Iraqis, David? Is that how you’re interpreting Kerry’s words?
Kerry was a war hero. Bush was a drunk who hid under daddy’s coat tails to avoid getting his uniform dirty. He was also head cheerleader at Yale. Some kind of hero you got there David!
David, can you please explain why the Senate democrats who were part of the Senate Intelligence Committee did not vote for the Iraq resolution? Huh David? Why was that? Oh that’s right. They KNEW THE DOCUMENT ABOUT YELLOWCAKE IN NIGER WAS A FAKE AND FRAUDULENT.
I don’t why it has to get so ugly before a “spirited discussion” finally comes around – and I **DO** appreciate the last 5-10 minutes of discussion. Seriously – I do.
I will follow up tomorrow or Tuesday with you – but I do have to go right now – my latest movie just — finally — finished uploading.
Look – I harbor no ill will towards you Kay, or #64….I mean Dave (that’s a joke Dave). It’s just that I don’t know why “you” have to be so damned uncivil to people who have a different opinion other than your own, and debate things without personal attacks.
Have a fine and pleasant evening.
Clinton didn’t start an illegal invasion/occupation/nation building in Iraq. Bush did though.
We’re not. You’re the uncivil one David. Until you realize that, you’re going to be unhappy.
The double chin comment was you being nice? Ha! You’re laughable and you don’t have the ability to take yourself into consideration when you accuse us of stuff. See? You have issues you need to work on.
Kay,
I think I might like coming here!
Gotta run right now but I’ll be seein’ ya.
*waving again*
Awesome Dave! Come by anytime and watch us win against the morons! It’s fun.
*waving back to me-Dave*!
that was very entertaining. more, more, more i want more!
That was fun, huh Smoke?
I still can’t get into the comments over at Ablog! I hate Haloscan. I think my “I hate Haloscan” comment posted, but since that time, I haven’t been able to get back in.
I miss everybody.
Al Gore just punked us at the Oscars!
But he didn’t say no…..
I saw that Mirth! I can’t believe the Academy starting playing the cut-off music and neither could Al Gore! LOL
I hope he runs too. He would win.
It was a great and coordinated joke, and it tells us that he knows all of us are wanting him to announce his candidacy.
Yes it does Mirth! He’s very in tune to the Left Blogosphere. He reads us. Well, probably not mine, but I bet he reads Ablog and others! Only the hip cool people are.
Hi Kay and gang. Guess I missed Dave Drake. I got the “Jew Hater” moniker, ay? We’re supposed to support Israel because we’re allies?
Okay, we’re allies. But we’re allies because of the perceived sharing of “judeo-christian values” and that American Christians believe that any nation that doesn’t support Israel will be cast into the “Lake of Fire” when judgement day arrives.
I never begrudged Israel’s right to exist. But I begrudge their treatment of the Palestinians and other Arabs. Knowing that the US has their back, especially Bu$hcon, their behaviour has been truly belicose.
Yeah, they were attacked three times by three nations at the same time. But they were supplied by America and they have treaties now with those nations, except Syria. Thanks to Carter.
And you have to admit DD, the lobby AIPAC holds alot of influence on Capital Hill. Am I perceiving this wrong?
Dave, when the chips fall, and when the neocons come for people’s shotguns, will you give yours up, like a good fascist?
Or will you be the libertarian you claim to be?
^5 Dad2059!!!
David Drake sounds like an AIPAC plant to protect Israel like Tallltexan does at LydiaCornell’s blog, only an AIPAC plant would come up with something as STUPID as neo-con is code word for anti semantic, since signatories of the PNAC document include Cheney an avowed Christian, and Zalmay Khalilzad a sunni Muslim, along with Wolofwitz, Rumsfeld(a christian last time I checked), so Flake boy your comment is as asinine as usual.
In fact asswipe the orginal neo-cons were former democrats who switched parties in the 1960’s and 1970’s, most of them worked for Scoop Jackson at some point;
People like Reagan switched in 1960 in response to JFK’s getting the nominatiuon and winning that election,
and Jean Kilpatrick, who worked for Jackson, before switching in the 70’s
here is a contempory definition of neo-con;
Many associate neoconservatism with periodicals such as Commentary and The Weekly Standard, along with the foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative
Here is a small bit about PNAC the foundation fo Cheney Rumsfeld wolfowitz ET Al which infected our government with their immoral ideaology;
The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a neo-conservative US think tank based in Washington, DC. Co-founded by William Kristol and Robert Kagan, the group was established in early 1997 as a non-profit organization. The PNAC is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a 501(c)(3) organization that has been funded by the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Bradley Foundation.[1]
PNAC was a major advocate for the United States’ 2003 invasion of Iraq. The invasion formed a centerpiece of the group’s neoconservative agenda. Complications with the invasion have contributed to PNAC’s decline, along with the decline of the larger neoconservative foreign policy movement. PNAC now only has one employee and is seen as nearly defunct.[2]
Critics allege that the controversial organization proposes military and economic space, cyberspace, and global domination by the United States, so as to establish and maintain a Pax Americana, a US dominance in world affairs. Some have argued the US-led invasion of Iraq in March of 2003 was the first step in furthering these plans.
Members
Many of the organization’s ideas, and its members, are associated with the neoconservative movement. PNAC, at one point, had seven full-time staff members in addition to its board of directors. It now has one full-time staffer.
Current members include William Kristol, Robert Kagan, Bruce P. Jackson, Mark Gerson, Randy Scheunemann, Ellen Bork, Gary Schmitt, Thomas Donnelly, and Reuel Marc Gerecht.[3]
Former members include prominent members of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration, including Richard Armitage, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Zalmay Khalilzad, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Richard Perle, former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.
Other former members include:
Gary Bauer, former presidential candidate, president of American Values
James B. Borow, former deputy director of the NSA, co-founder of the Illinois Center for Core Values
Rudy Boschwitz, former US Senator from Minnesota
Eliot A. Cohen, professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
Steve Forbes, multi-millionaire publisher of Forbes Magazine, former presidential candidate
Aaron Friedberg, director of the Center of International Studies
Frank Gaffney, columnist, founder of Center for Security Policy
Fred Ikle, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Jeane Kirkpatrick, former U.S. ambassador
Charles Krauthammer, conservative columnist
Christopher Maletz
Daniel McKivergan
Norman Podhoretz, Hudson Institute
Dan Quayle, former vice-president
Stephen Rosen, Beton Michael Kaneb Professor of National Security and Military Affairs, Harvard University
Henry Rowen, former president of Rand Corporation
Abram Shulsky, former Director of Office of Special Plans
Vin Weber, Minnesota congressman
George Weigel, political commentator
R. James Woolsey, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency for President Bill Clinton, vice-president at Booz Allen Hamilton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
Pnac and AEI are comingled with a lot of the same individuals….with the same illicite ideaology and criminal aims of world domination for their own self interest.
So they foundation of the neo-cons is really reichwingnut pseudo christians who believe in the dominionist movement and think they need to support Israel to foment armageddon and the rapture, like GOD really needs their help at all.
Flakey boy your just another neo-con supporting troll son, and nothing more aswipe.
So your ignorance of History is showing Flake boy.
So far bush has: Eliminated habeas corpus, allowing ANYone HE chooses to be grabbed off the street and shipped to a foreign nation to be tortured and killed. HE can direct ANY agency to sneak into your house or office and take, look at anything they want without a warrant.He can direct ANYone he wants to read your email, snail mail and listen to ANY phone conversation ANYtime without a court order. He HAS directed private corporations to compile databases on ALL Americans with financial,employment,tax and even medical information without our knowledge or a warrant. HE can declare martial law for ANY reason or without a reason ANY time he chooses AND can have(for the FIRST time since the civil war) FEDERAL troops attack or round up ANY American IN the country.
His foreign policy has been an unmitigated DISASTER for us. The WHOLE God Damn world hates our guts and IF they should decide to attack us, we CAN’T respond because the dumb fucks have destroyed our military, and are so busy handing out hundreds of TONS of OUR money to private contractors, WE CAN’T AFFORD TO FIX IT!!!
The amount of people living below the poverty level in this country has SKYROCKETED since bushcorp invaded us, and THEY don’t CARE! MILLIONS of people have lost their jobs, and over 45 MILLION people don’t have medical insurance. HIS answer? TAX those who DO have it and give tax deductions to those who CAN’T afford it.
As long as the subject of guns was brought up, the aluminum-tito-phobe ashcroft “interpreted” the second ammendment as an INDIVIDUAL right to keep and bear firearms. You can abridge an individual right, but NOT collective rights.
This is the tip of the iceberg. We “LIBRALS” are incensed over all the BS people like YOU,DD allowed, hell, ENCOURAGED to happen. As a supposed “libertarian,” YOU of ALL God Damn people SHOULD be shouting louder than US. BUT,YOU come here and attack US. The difference between us and YOU, is that WE will fight for YOUR rights, and YOU make idiotic smartass comments about K’s beautiful face. What a pathetic pustule you are DD, and all the a-holes LIKE you. YOU wouldn’t take the time to register on MY site,OR back up your verbal vomit with FACTS. ETR is a better place because assholes like YOU don’t take the ten seconds to sign in. Thanks.
Frank…Hell Yeah! You say it for all of us.
To dd and bushbot and all the other miserable little people who come here and ask for dialog, Frank just told you why you aren’t worth our time or energy. There is a mountain of evidence of the damage your kind have brought to us and to the world. It isn’t our responsibility to educate you or to give you a platform to spew your ignorance.
Dad2059:
Don’t confuse David and Dave. Dave is an intelligent and informed gentleman, and David….isn’t.
Let’s not tell DD your secret Mirthyone. let’s let him keep referring to you as him. I know that K has a beautiful face and, even more importantly, a beautiful heart. I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing YOUR face Mirth, but I’m willing to bet that you and K are beautiful in heart AND face. My old mug is posted on KLAYs site, and the three of us will have our pics posted on ETR soon.
As for the DD disease, you sir have shown that you are no gentleman. Like MOST of the fungus that leaches through the “intertubes”, you come here without knowing ANYthing about ANY of us and start making stupid comments about the owners physical features. You have no class and are indeed a waste of time.And worst of all, you are boring.
Mirth, if I weren’t the most married man you’ll ever meet, I would be at your door BEGGING you to marry me,if for no other reason than to keep you off of your icy roof.
Great post Frank, you put the idiot troll in its place
Awesome Frank! Nice slap down of the moron who thinks George W. Bush is the best thing since sliced bread and refuses to put any blame on this anti-American, anti-Constitutional, pro-war/death/torture/rape, no good for nothing fascist Pig! We know the truth and that’s all that matters. DD couldn’t answer any of our questions last night because, well, he can’t defend the Fuhrer, because to do so one has to lie, lie, lie, distort, spin, lie, lie, and lie! How embarrassing for the trolls!
Oh, and Frank, I don’t care what the spider hole troll has to say about me or my physical attributes, because I know that I’m on the correct side of the political aisle, have done a lot of good in my short life, and am not a bad looking woman for a woman approaching 40! I honestly don’t judge people by their looks, but the trolls do. Why? They have nothing to defend their Fuhrer’s actions with, so they call names and put the Truth Sayers down. Ha ha.
Mirth is beautiful in face and heart! I’ve had the pleasure of talking with her behind the scenes and she is wonderful! Frank? I may have to beat you to get at her door. I would marry her in a heart beat too.
Love you guys! Have a great day!
Looks like things are as lively around here as they were on the old blog…
AND… my little bitch Busboy is still around! Man, Kay, he must be around 500 pounds and just plastered with jizz from snarfing Doritos and whacking his masochism to the tune of all of the abuse he gets! We’ll have to call him “Sticky” from now on! Luckily, he lives a solitary life in the attic of the local Cathedral, and only comes out at night when the ‘hump’ isn’t so visible!
I’ll give you some intelligent debate, Sticky… when you grow a brain that is capable of more than just providing nourishment for your hump, manipulating Doritos wrappings, and signalling your penis to inflate whenever George Bush says: “SIEG HEIL!”
Now run along… it’s feeding time at the zoo, and the chimps will only eat from your hand… and other places.
Al
(Formerly “rocky”)
Rocky is here!!! I’ve missed you sooooooooooooooo much! Love your latest bitch slap…
Please come back Rocky!
#86: kayinmaine Says:
February 25th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
“Kerry was a war hero.”
Kerry was no war hero. He fragged himself twice to get out. He couldn’t even do that right! heh!!